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    fllamjr - Composition 1.1

    Hello!

    I'm new here in conceptart.org and just started with the workshop to improve my art, namely color, composition, buildings and backgrounds or better yet create a more solid style.

    I aim to become a concept artist or character designer for games and such; I am a big fan of Akihiko Yoshida (Final Fantasy Tactics, Vagrant Story) and Evan Lee, Hyung Tae Kim. Artists I look up to include Fenghua Zhong, Joao Ruas, LINRAN, Yong Sub Noh and Zhang Lu among many others.

    Critiques for my works are absolutely welcome!

    I have the following questions:

    A. Do we need to copy/base specifically from old masters? Or can I copy from the artists I listed above?
    B. If it's a yes and we can't copy from above artists, can anyone help or guide me which old master should I pick or base from the works of Fenghua Zhong, Tong Sub Noh, Zhang Lu or Evan Lee.
    C. Also, on a different topic, it seems my attachments are piling up when I removed an image and attached a new one, please save me . . . (Figured this out on my own, a menu in you profile settings thing)

    John Singer Sargent artwork study

    In the meantime, I started the workshop with with I chose Sargent because I saw his name pop up in some art sites I visited, like "Sargent Study", then I looked for his works and got interested because somehow I liked his strokes...? I loved doing this, specially how he painted the eyes, mouth and mustache! All in all this was fun, this was only the first or second for me (copying from a master) and I found it to be good practice. This helped me loosen up a bit and be more aware of values to make the work pop-up.

    I spent about 2-3 hours on this I think? Then I re-read the instructions then it hit me that I should have done it in 1 hour max and not doing the details, I'm sorry for that, my bad, I think I got caught up in the moment so i stopped on this progress hahaha. Didn't get all values right, but again was happy with the process (not the time), i need more practice!

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    Fenghua Zhong artwork study

    Fenghua Zhong is one of my inspirations, he may be a modern cg artist but I consider him at a master's level. His works usually involve dynamic movement and splendid colors with confident brush strokes. In this piece, using the rule of thirds, he emphasized on the movement of the characters/elements that leads the viewer to enjoy the harmony between the foot soldiers and the samurai that is riding a horse which is the focus of the painting.

    This took me roughly an hour and a half? I wanted to work faster compared to my first piece. But if permitted and instructed to, I can continue polishing, since I'm not that happy with this yet, I feel that I'm still far away in getting the right values.

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    Yong Sub Noh artwork

    Another great artist that inspires me, maybe I'll do one of his environment art as another study. I love how he emphasizes figures with his lightning as shown on this painting, and this emphasis adds more drama and intrigue to the darker valued sides of the artwork.

    This took me 2 hours and I'm not happy still with my speed as well as getting the values, I still need a lot of improvement.

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    Struggling to really ignore details and just focus on values haha

    Frank Frazetta artwork

    I love the dynamic of the movement of the pose and the contrast between the dark valued centaur/creature with the highlighted woman and moon background.

    I stopped at 1 hour, still not happy with my speed and getting the right values

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    I stopped at 2 hours, I guess I'm not really cut off for speed yet haha Not really happy with the time as well as getting the values

    Maybe I'll just focus on values next and not think too much of the time.

    William Adolphe Bouguereau artwork

    I love the playfulness of the piece, the dynamic forms/poses and his mastery of values.

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    Your on the track,these are coming along nicely. The purpose of this assignment
    is to see what we see, not what we want to see. Try mapping out the shapes of these paintings
    accurately and dont worry about the time limit. If you need more time on these then go for it, as speed
    will come later.
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    Thank you for the advice! Then I shall keep that in mind and not worry about the time limit.
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    I am in agreement. Shapes are super key. You are doing great for the time limit but slowing down a bit to really nail the shapes will make for an immediate quality bump. Here is what I had to say earlier about shapes as it completely applies. (For example you are placing your figures a little low in the format...ie the females heads in the prior two images are a bit lower than the original, placement wise).

    When you are first getting started it is very important to really focus in on the mapping out of your shapes as accurately as you can possibly get them. If you put a shape in the wrong place and commit you end up having the other shapes off and require fixing, which increases painting time. By taking just a few extra minutes early on to measure out your shapes, to compare your shapes, and be sure they are placed and drawn accurately will make the rest of the painting process, working out your values and edges, much much easier.

    You should flip the images horizontally and vertically so that you see the shapes with fresh eyes. This should be part of the process and if you are already doing that, keep doing it more. The professional artists will often flip images or use a mirror to see with fresh eyes as many as three or four times a minute as they are working when things really get flowing. You can also back away...actually get up and back away...and doing this works for shapes as well as checking values and edges.

    Keep up the good work.


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    Thank you! I'll keep this in mind, I'll focus on shapes and values in the meantime and keep fresh eyes to get them right.
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    Focused on shapes and values, I had fun with this one! It's not perfect but I enjoyed working on this

    Please don't ask about the time haha

    Evan Lee Artwork

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    Great Work Man! The only crit that I can give is to improve those edges on upper left corner.
    This something I need to work on as well.
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    Thank you! I appreciate your crit, it's nice that I get to see stuff I missed.
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    Very nice work. My only comment was covered in the prior crit. Just keep them coming at this point. Great job.


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