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    Hello

    I thought I do a big piece and well here's how it turned out.

    I think the dead bodies and the zombies are breaking the composition, but I'm unsure how I can fix the zombies, dead body needs more structure

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    You need to work on your fundamentals. The anatomy seems decent (no huge problems), but the rest needs work.

    If I was to try to improve this I'd start by doing some thumbnails to figure out some less symetric and boring composition. Get some movement in there, some focal points to drive our eyes around the painting and so on. Seeing how you struggle to make the whole thing coherent it won't be easy at first, but be sure to work on thumbnails and do more planning.

    You should also set a light source, and stick to it, with shadows, highlights, midtones and values. This is also very useful when trying to build volume and depth. Also, it would need some better perspective, as well as atmospheric perspective. Build the lines and make sure to plan really everything.

    Also, do some landscape studies. Pay particular attention to the sky too.

    But I think most of the problems come from the bad composition, lack of lighting and perspective.
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    Thank you Stephou,

    Yeah I've been struggling to tweak this piece for over a week now. I think just as you said lack of perspective and I think on my experience as well.

    So I will work on all of those

    Thank you
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    I would have to reiterate the other comment. I will add that a central focal point is boring and there isn't much else going on. A lack of a defined light source is like the number one issue for amateurs.
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    I appreciate the constructive criticism, but regurgitation is not necessary

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    It wasn't just regurgitation. I was agreeing with the other comment, yes, maybe I should have expanded my own. The central focal point being your only read isn't doing anything for the piece. It is a one stop read and the rest is just filled space. If you were to incorporate a second or third read then you would be better off for a larger piece, otherwise it's wasted space that might as well be cut out. Compositionally not only was it boring, but there wasn't much set up at all and the landscape was not on par with the rest. This is shown by your second painting being darkened to the point that the rest of the landscape is black, now. I think as it stands now if you were to crop the picture down to only the character your composition would be better off. As it stands the rest of the painting only serves to distract the eye from the character and lead the viewer off the page and away from the painting. In other words, I think you're walking a line between a landscape and a character full-body portrait. It can be done, but I think you'd be better off choosing one or the other.
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    where is the light coming from and why is it only affecting the main character? If it is so dark, why are the main char's clothes so over-saturated?
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    Looking at your DA, it seems you can pull off quite decent figures. But the lighting and values still need work. Maybe try to do this piece focusing more on the figures and entire characters rather than a large mass of them ?

    Of course, you still have to study your fundamentals. I'd recommend starting with lighting, values and so on.
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    I am no expert but the composition seems off atm. The sword leads my eyes out to the left and there are no strong light source. Should work on atmosphere perspective too. excuse my bad paint over.
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    @Benedikt; my experience in paint is very limited, so a lot of the questions that are being asked simply can be answered; because I just choose a sort of light and didn't think I needed to put it in the picture.

    @Stephou Yeah I was thinking about cropping it down to just her and some dead bodies and maybe a bit of faint light in the background and change the lighting a little bit. Thank you I will keep tweaking it

    @HaoningW Thank you sir! I will do what I can and your bad paint over is making it a lot better actually XD
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    Hi WenDu. :] Maybe it would help for future paintings if you painted them in blacks, whites, and grays before deciding on colors? I think it would help you establish a focal point and the light source the others are talking about.

    And when picking colors later, it kinda "forces" you to pick less saturated colors than you did here. o:
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    Quote Originally Posted by nastyRED View Post
    Hi WenDu. :] Maybe it would help for future paintings if you painted them in blacks, whites, and grays before deciding on colors? I think it would help you establish a focal point and the light source the others are talking about.

    And when picking colors later, it kinda "forces" you to pick less saturated colors than you did here. o:
    Hi nastyRed! Thank you for the advice and yeah that's what I'm doing right now with a side sketch I'm doing. And yeah I did felt the painting was a bit forced and well I just don't know how to paint to be honest. XD.

    So I'm just diving in head on XD
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    Okay cool. :] Would be nice to see when you're done.
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