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    Stuck at this level. Update.

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    First big scaled painting, have problems with color and value,etc.
    The idea is a futuristic china where there are tons of smog cities and divide between rich and poor. I tried my best to represent this with the outside areas becoming like a slum. As per usual paint overs are EXTREMELY appreciated.Name:  tf_5.jpg
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    Compositionally the lines lead me to the right and out of the picture because there's nothing there to hold me in the frame.
    In terms of light and colour, where is your light source?

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    Study formal perspective. A lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arenhaus View Post
    Study formal perspective. A lot.
    please expand on that.
    changed the comps here and there. found my light sourceName:  tf_5.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by HaoningW View Post
    please expand on that.
    There is little to expand there. Study of formal perspective is needed to internalize perspective. You've tried to guess it in this picture, but you cannot guess perspective successfully until you have learned the rules and know how to work with them. Your vanishing points will be all over the place.

    Get "Perspective Made Easy" by Norling, and practice doing perspective plots. Master the techniques. Use them in actual pictures.

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    the comp isnt working out at this point. Hows this approach?

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    I think the image you had could have worked quite well with some perspective fixes but this image seems to be much better in perspective. Add some more space to the right to make the focal point in a better area of interest and your on the right track.

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    I find it hard to start anything with a blank canvas. What approach should I start taking? Photobash slightly to get some sense of color? I am so used to practicing my values to the point where it's really difficult for colors to come into play.

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    about 45minutes in, scratched twice.Name:  tf_5.jpg
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    Name:  tf_5.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benedikt View Post
    You shoukld get soem reference for lighting and colours. It's obvious that you're just guessing from imagination here.
    you're right. And it's even harder to copy from reference.Name:  tf_5.jpg
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    I think that you ended up with an ok image here. The problem tho is that you got there by relying heavily on photo bashing things on top of a light paint job you applied. Thats cool if that is what you were going for but I don't think using textures and photos so much in your work is going to teach you much besides how to manipulate photos.

    I think experienced artists primarily use photos and textures to save time but they have a fundamental understanding of how to get there by constructing and painting the image even if they didn't have the photos to work with.

    If I were you and I wanted to actually learn something I would work on scenes where you don't use any photos pasted in or textures from other images. Just try to do the best you can with regular brushes and see how you do.

    You definitely want to use photos and the world as reference but should try to not directly copy and paste them directly into your work.

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    The textures are just a last minute thing. This painting is for a client and I've already delayed a little so I am trying my best for it to decent with the minimal amount of time. But I will definitely try painting without textures when I can.

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