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    TGFX, you might want to take this off your mainpage . No one likes an art thief.

    Last edited by N D Hill; August 4th, 2004 at 11:52 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exo
    You might want to take this off your mainpage . No one likes an art thief.

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    Hah... i can't believe there are still some people doing this.

    Pathetic i must say.

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    At the bottom of the page, clearly visible-

    a TITANIUM GRAPHICS production
    Copyright 2004
    Other art for DEMO purposes only and is copyright to their respective owners.


    His ass is covered.
    Now, wether or not he has permission to use the sketch? Who knows- But he does, essentially, say that the art is not his...

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    He may have just added that. I posted the link in the CA IRC room and Duq left a message in his guest book, hence "SIGN MY GUEST BOOK - off line due to some looser."

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    Umm is it me or is feng's website down ?... ?

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    Yeah, I'm not sure he understand exactly how copyright law works. Simply crediting the person (which he really did only loosely) does NOT give you the right to use the work. If you use the work without permission, it is ILLEGAL. Period. So unless he has permission from Feng and any other artist whos art he's using, he's violating copyright. (BTW, I can't get the link to the original artwork to work )

    (Note, IANAL)

    *edit*
    ROFLMAO at egerie's post..that smiley is so perfect..hahahaha

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    Hey, hey calm down that's not stealing it's been flipped around and everything.

    strictly speaking it's only illegal under copyright law to use someone elses intellectual property for personal gain without consent ( which I presume is going on here), so you can legally print a t-shirt with someone elses art on, if you don't sell it to someone else or even give it away to them, as long as it's for personal use only. The problem is by it being on the internet we break copyright law everytime we download something, without paying for it directly.

    BTW feng's site is still up, but you have to go through the side door.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fukifino
    Yeah, I'm not sure he understand exactly how copyright law works. Simply crediting the person (which he really did only loosely) does NOT give you the right to use the work. If you use the work without permission, it is ILLEGAL. Period. So unless he has permission from Feng and any other artist whos art he's using, he's violating copyright. (BTW, I can't get the link to the original artwork to work )

    (Note, IANAL)

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    ROFLMAO at egerie's post..that smiley is so perfect..hahahaha
    You pretty much nailed it. A copyright implies ownership and all rights of public and private display and distribution. If Feng or the company who may own the rights to that particular image chose to permit this (which I highly doubt) he'd be in the clear. Simply implying that he's only using it for "demo" purposes grants him no legal saftey especially when he doesn't give specific credit to the artist.

    In anycase, we all know exactly what this boils down to. He's using someone else's work to represent his own mod. Feng Zhu's an incredably tallented artist as well as a prominant name in the industry and his uncredited work is being used to promote something that he had nothing to do with.

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    And very important, Fengs material is used for personal gain.

    He wants to show this to investors to invest his project. I think that if you want to be taken serious by any investor you need to post your own work, and not others. This simply misleading the investor and abusing the work of someone else.

    But let TGFX explain himself here.

    "Master storytellers never explain. They do the hard, painfully creative thing-- they dramatize"

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    Yea, having worked at Liquid myself, I advise he take that art down ASAP before Ed del Castillo sees it.

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    One thing everyone is forgetting: that dragon was done for another game Feng worked on..so really it's not even Feng's. The company who published Battle Realms has to do somthing. And if you guys think game publishers keep track or even give a shit about old concept art from old games, you really have to get out more.
    That guy's little mod company doesn't have to worry about anything except for people in this small community.

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    There are several Liquid Entertainment artists (Battle Realms developer) in this small community and they do give a shit when someone is inappropriately using their assets. This will get back to them and del Castillo will nip it in the butt guaranteed.

    As an artist at Origin in the nineties I saw on more than one occasion small garage developers pitching roleplaying game projects to Origin/EA hoping to get a publishing deal and using concept art borrowed from various sources, D & D manuals, comics, and even Ultima games, usually Denis Loubet's artwork, not realizing they were pitching to a company whose artwork they lifted. Most of these developers never got off the ground, some have since come and gone, and one of them is now a very well known japanese rpg developer. They all started out somewhere and companies do give a shit when their assets are misappropriated.

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    I'm sure there are a lot of reasons why those gmae devs. who snaked other art assets never got off the ground. Ofcourse it's common sense not to steal, but most of the Big publishers who I know of, they can't even keep track of their old assets, nevermind the concept art.

    If this company never gets picked up , I'd suprised if it was for the fact they stole some old concept art from another game.

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    Wow...You guys don't give up do you. I guess you people have nothing better to do. I don't see Mr.Feng Zhu complaining about it like the little girls you are. Get a life....
    Everyone that has come on the team or everyone that emailed me and asked about the project never complained and they understood that the art on the banner is for ideas and inspiration only. Copyrights to their owners.

    So lay off... and if i do that it off then what are ya going to complain about...get a life
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    so you are the looser the left those bad messages on the guest book....os unprofessional...
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    for curiousities sake tgfx, if you've got a team of "artists" why can't they make some art for your page?

    so unprofessional...

    I self-published a book on the fundamentals of drawing from life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tgfx
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    so you are the looser the left those bad messages on the guest book....os unprofessional...
    Actually that was Duq. I couldn't get it to work, unfortunately.

    Oh, and before you go and start telling people how to conduct themselves professionally you can (A.) stop representing yourself with other artist's work while trying to justify it with a phony disclaimer. (B.) Put together a coherent sentence in English. (C.) Come up with a better defense than "you little girls! its for inspiration only os Get a life!"

    By the way. thanks for bringing this thread back to the top for more little girls to see.

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    you are the fucker that steals other peoples stuff... and being rude about it at the forum too.

    No, we people do NOT give up on this stuff. It is what makes our living, feeds us our daily bread. Probably you don;t know anything of providing for your own or your family or you would not do this so lightly and be all cocky about it.

    you're just lucky your small fry otherwise mr Zhu WOULD probably be knocking on yer door at this moment.


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    Quote Originally Posted by tgfx
    Wow...You guys don't give up do you. I guess you people have nothing better to do. I don't see Mr.Feng Zhu complaining about it like the little girls you are. Get a life....
    Everyone that has come on the team or everyone that emailed me and asked about the project never complained and they understood that the art on the banner is for ideas and inspiration only. Copyrights to their owners.

    So lay off... and if i do that it off then what are ya going to complain about...get a life


    Yeah but... see there's still something I don't get here.

    Why someone else work when... you can make your own?

    The least you could do is be honest and admit that this is due to lazyness or selfishness of your part. And then take it off.

    No one would of bothered replying. But no, you still think you are right.

    But i'm sure you have learned a lesson with all this, or at least I hope you did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exo
    Actually that was Duq. I couldn't get it to work, unfortunately.

    Oh, and before you go and start telling people how to conduct themselves professionally you can (A.) stop representing yourself with other artist's work while trying to justify it with a phony disclaimer. (B.) Put together a coherent sentence in English. (C.) Come up with a better defense than "you little girls! its for inspiration only os Get a life!"

    By the way. thanks for bringing this thread back to the top for more little girls to see.
    My posts in his guestbook where nice and not at all insulting, he is just hot-tempered I guess. I can understand it though, it is is tough to know that everybody is right.

    And I still think: This is an insult to your own artist team,this way you're saying that they are not good enough to get their work posted..

    "Master storytellers never explain. They do the hard, painfully creative thing-- they dramatize"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erik
    REMOVE THAT ART -- there is no excuse
    Nuff said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erik
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    tgfx

    you are the fucker that steals other peoples stuff... and being rude about it at the forum too.

    No, we people do NOT give up on this stuff. It is what makes our living, feeds us our daily bread. Probably you don;t know anything of providing for your own or your family or you would not do this so lightly and be all cocky about it.

    you're just lucky your small fry otherwise mr Zhu WOULD probably be knocking on yer door at this moment.


    REMOVE THAT ART -- there is no excuse
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    At least ask.

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    Uhmm, if I go somewhere with a portofolio and no image are from me... even with copyright... I'm not a pro, I'm a rigolo(stupid man in english).

    So you can't do a thing, so you steal the work of someone else.

    Seriously, don't you think you're gonna have trouble? Lot of pro work here... and little talk travel fast.

    Remove that work. Lamer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tgfx
    I guess you people have nothing better to do. I don't see Mr.Feng Zhu complaining about it like the little girls you are. Get a life....
    Maybe he just hasn't seen it yet.

    and little girls aren't a bad thing to be, they get much more respect from me than someone who rips off someone else's artwork...

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    you know, I was thinking about this a little while ago. I bet Feng wouldn't even care.

    Have you seen his recent posts? He's a million times better then this now. He probably doesn't care if somebody uses drawings that he wipes his ass with.

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    Unless Mr. Feng or Battle Realms tells me to take it off i won't. It will stay there till i see fit...Thank you for palying the game...
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    You’re really dumb.

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    I love you too Schlo-mo.
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