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    MadaoWay - Composition 1.1

    Hello everyone,
    I was lurking for a while this forum, and i decide to finally be a part of this adventure. I am really a pure beginner in drawing and art in general, but i hope with you help, i will learn more and more everyday.

    Anyway, this is my first study ever, i choose Hopper because of his way to paint light. I got the chance to see the exposition last year in Paris, and i was amazed by his painting, and the way he render light.
    For this one in particullar, i think the emphasis are on the characters, he got all his perspective line going toward them. I choose this piece for the story telling, and the mood too.

    Tell me if the size of my canvas is too big, i didn't know what was the perfect dimension for this kind of study.

    Sorry for my english, i will try to be better at that too
    Thanks for reading ^^

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    Edit : I forgot to mention that he took almost 7hours i think, but i didn't draw continully, just during my break or when i got some free time. My schedule was crasy last week.

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    Name:  NightHawks E.Hopper_MadaowayStudy1_TimeLapse.jpg
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    And one time lapse, to show you that i didn't have a lot to show after one hour on this study ^^

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    Hello, that's a nice start, values are pretty accurate and edges are good. Main crit would be the angle of the carpet on the left. Yours is considerably different and that changes the perspective of the entire picture a bit. In your 1 hour version you had it almost right, but in 3 hour version you have changed it.
    Looking forward for more

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    Quote Originally Posted by samwaulu View Post
    Hello, that's a nice start, values are pretty accurate and edges are good. Main crit would be the angle of the carpet on the left. Yours is considerably different and that changes the perspective of the entire picture a bit. In your 1 hour version you had it almost right, but in 3 hour version you have changed it.
    Looking forward for more
    Thanks, Never trust your girlfriend lol
    I change the perspective because she said i was off.
    I will try to fix this tonight.
    Thanks for the crit's

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    Hi fellow Frenchie

    I love that painting too.
    Regarding critiques, Sam was quicker than me :p
    I think your values and edges are good but watch for your perspective.
    Try to flip your canvas horizontally and vertically while mapping shapes, it helps a lot for fixing mistakes.

    Good luck!

    I wait to see more

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    The french connection

    You saw my big weakness, the perspective, i struggled a lot on this subject.
    And it's true, i didn't flip my canvas during the all study.
    I will try to fix it.

    Merci

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    We all have our weaknesses, that's why we're here
    I tend to easily freak out when I have to draw something I know I'm not good at.
    When it happens (i.e. everytime...) I take a deep breath and try to stay calm, stubborn and carefully observe what I see.
    It's not important if it's an eye, a wall, a foot or a tree: it's all just made of damn shapes and values. Look at those shapes and how they work together.
    I hope it helps

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    Finally home, i tried to fix my perspective problem on this big shape on the left.
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    ZeC, you are right. I got this fear of the white canvas, somethimes at work, i can stay block during a lot of time, starring my screen, and with the fear to commit.
    I will try your relax technique ^^

    Thanks

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    Great first image. The road is now better but still a bit in a wrong angle. Good way to get it right is to draw couple of sketch lines on top of the original image and then copy that movement to your own or you can hold your pen up with a straight hand and eyeball that angle like a painter. Overall the values are really close and the study is well done. Keep up the good work.

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    This is excellent. For a first crack at this you have gotten very close and for the assignment this is the level of quality I like to see. There are a few bits where values could be closer, like the lighter shape below the window in the background building... but overall this one is where it should be.

    Keep up the great work and I look forward to more updates.


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    Second study folks,
    First of all, i tried your relax technique ZeC, and he helps.

    Thanks jason and TomHoen for your feednack, i will rework this pieces soon.

    A Bedouin Arab - Sargent
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    For this one, three worlds make me take this piece :

    Emphasis : for the focus we an see on the face of the figure, he use some subttle changes in the value, and keep his darkest dark and his lightest for some point on the face.

    Rythm : His strokes are beautiful, this create some mouvement on a portrait, fabulous

    Economy : The way he describes the drappery, really simple line but powerful.

    It was a blast to work on this.

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    I'm glad it helps!
    Nice job with your Sargeant study! There's something a bit odd with his head, I don't know what exactly.
    Maybe the face is a bit too narrow and the lips a bit too thick? Sorry not being of much help on this one :/
    This portrait is beautiful, I think you did a very nice job with values.

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    Yeah, i see what you are talking about, i think it's the wider of the face, the lips and the position of the eyes. I got to rework this piece.
    I work on a study, and try to go back on this one with fresh eyes.

    Thanks for your advice

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    The paint quality on this is beautiful. Great job there. There are some shape differences in the face, as mentioned, starting with the central axis that runs down the middle of the face vertically. Yours twists a little bit to the right. Get the overall shape, positive and negative shapes right then check your axis. Always check the axis, as there are often angle differences when doing these studies. For this assignment though this is a fine study and I encourage you to move on to the next image and just keep working on your drawing accuracy.

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    Ok Jason, thanks for the advice
    Now i see the wrong angle of the main axis.
    For the two next studies; i sufffer a lot on the shape, and i think at one point, i didn't really check my values, and i was too focusing on the shape, rather than the overall painting.

    Study 3 Der Wanderer über dem Nebelmeer - Caspar David Friedrich

    Beautiful painting, i felt in love with the composition. This feeling of adventure, liberty is incredible.
    Lot of rythm in this pieces,with the shape of the mountain, this line of horizon who point on the character.
    I fail to this one, i couldn't get close on the value, maybe because of the texture.
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    Study 4 Johannes_Vermeer_(1632-1675)_-_The_Girl_With_The_Pearl_Earring_(1665)

    This one was an attempt to get likeness, because i couldn't in the sergant one.
    I focused a lot on the shape, on the axis, and the placement of the features.
    I was amazed by the details in the shadows, the masters balance the piece with subtle texture on the background.
    For the emphasis, i am not sure, i will say it's the face, the eyes, and of course the pearl.
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    I will try to be more productive, but with the world cup and the among of works, it's not really easy.

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    these are coming along great. watch the value transitions and gradients on the face of the vermeer as that is the main area that is standing out to me. Keep up the great work. Your progress is good..just keep them rolling.


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    Hi All
    World Cup has end, and i am not anymore too busy in works, so it's time to go back on study.
    During my freetime, i went to a lot of exposition, and of course i think it will be a good influence on my study choice. (I saw a lot of sketch and a big painting of Sergant T_T beautiful )
    For my comeback, i choose a Franck Weston Benson's painting. (impressionism rocks XD !!!)
    A really powerful painting, in real, i was stunned by the quality and the rythme of his brushstroke.
    Study 5 Franck Weston Benson - Eleanor 6h
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    I tried a different approach for this study, a lot influenced by the studies of ZeCarnival, i tried really to look, and search for the design principle, and put some mark, and side note during my study.
    I was suprised to discover more and more subttle details.
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    We can see above, that i tried to find some repetition, and i think there is a repetititon of triangular shapes all over the piece.
    I can see now that i missed some The position of triangular shape on the girl are the opposite of the shapes of the background. It's a little bit like some puzzle pieces.
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    Balance, this piece is really balance, he put some dark mark all over the piece.
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    Rythm, in real life, when i saw this painting in the museum, i was amazed by the brushstroke.
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    The circle are, i think, the focus point of the piece. He uses some high contrast betwhen the thumb and the face, to lead the eyes on the face of the girl.
    The orange line is for the constant opposition, in value of the girl and the background. When the values on the girl are dark, the background are light, etc...
    And there is a opposition of the brush stroke, look at the background, there is a lot of texture, brushstroke, in opposition the threatment of the girl is more simple.

    Waiting for your feedback, mate

    Edit:

    A video of the exposition i saw near Paris. (At Giverny, near the house of Monet )

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    This is great. Thanks for the video too. The color in that first image..well all those images... is sooooo stunning. Yum.

    You nailed it on this recent image study and my only comment would be to experiment with texture brushes a little more to capture more of the precise paint quality and image surface. Aside from that you are absolutely on the right track now. keep up the great work and just keep them rolling now.

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    Yeah, i didn't use textured brush yet on any of my study.
    i tried to limited myself with the soft and hard rounded brush, but i think it's time i try some textured on my next study.
    Thanks jason.

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    Study 6 Claude Monet Painting by the edge of a Wood - John Singer Sargent

    I got really nothing to talk about this study, because when i saw in the museum, i was really happy to try a study of it.
    But it was not so fun, maybe i am not confortable with the landscape, or the painting with a lot brushstroke, and detail.
    The result don't satisfied me, but i will not work on it for now.
    Maybe later.
    I tried some textured brush,there are not so easy to use after all lol
    I need to practice

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    Hi there!
    Great job on your latest studies! What can I say... I'm glad if my studies can may help you in any way Your analysis of the portrait is really interesting, keep them going!
    Not much to add, except what has already been told really... Try experimenting with texture brushes, sometimes you can stumble upon a great rendering effect.
    Keep it up

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    great work. a little more texture in your brush and you will get these studies to the next level.

    keep it up.

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