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    I am not sure what the hell is going on here, but this is all I can think of when I read the responses ( Pic ). Damn I would hate to work as a PR guy.
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    Oh boy. I remember this incident quite well.

    I agree with Benedikt on the whole, Vexel Studios being one person. He certainly responds in the exact same manner as before...
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    Okay I just did a quick google search on VexelStudios and the results are not pretty. If you are interested in continued existence I suggest you abandon this name, its pretty much spoiled to both freelancers and clients alike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VexelStudios View Post
    we have a very limited experience in dealing with freelancers, especially bad ones,
    Ok, you REALLY should understand that it's hard for people to take your apologies as sincere ones when you basically use all of your apologies to also badmouth the artist at the same time because you just continue doing what you were apologizing for, which has been pointed out multiple times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VexelStudios View Post
    Being defensive online is generally a very, very bad idea
    That sounds like good advice.

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    You should really stop talking about yourself in plural, Ahmad. Sounds really weird.

    Better still: Stop talking altogether. It's not like you're going to get a decent artist hired in the forseeable future anyways, no matter how often you come back for more drama.

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    so I've been getting pm's from "vexelstudios" asking what I'm bad mouthing them the whole time... somewhat more civil than the pm from the previous cock up.... still not apologizing for bad-mouthing the artist and for accusing me of a smear campaign. I did however get this:

    Re: Dear Mr. kidult

    Actually Mr. Yassen is not an employee with our organization anymore and we didn't lie about that, we didn't want to explain ourselves in a public forum, but we are willing to explain as long these following details will remain private between us:

    Mr. Yassen did help us create most of the pages & profiles on several website a while back (he even created our online website and online presence), you can tell however that he's using our old brand for all of these websites, we have changed our brand slightly from that time (our current X is a little different now)

    We are little short-handed at the moment, but we are working on updating our online presence and regaining control of these pages, we will get around fixing these pages.

    All we can say is that we are sorry that we made a mistake and things turned our ugly, we are trying to made amends now, and we can't force you to work with us if you don't want to.

    But we were hoping that you at least please stop posting bad things about us.

    Thanks and we are looking forward for your reply,

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    We are sorry that you want to continue with this path Mr. kidult, because we think that you might cause yourself more harm than good when you published our private message on these forums, Since we doubt that many future employers will look favorably at your post, and still wants to pursuit a meaningful freelancing work with you.
    yup sure thing buddy....I imagine hundreds of potential employers are reading this thread right now....
    also when working with actual real clients and companies you'l sign a NDA. A law binding document. And seeing as I have done fuck all work for you, I don't see why I shouldnt post this. And once again you refuse to address the issues at hand and instead attack...

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    So you disregarded my advice about retaliating? That again was not an apology as TinyBird has pointed out. I notice in a number of places you state the original problem was years ago - October 2013 is even a year. No one can see what you're about on your website as you are required to log in - great way to sell yourself. You're not great at explaining yourself anywhere on the net.

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    oh hey guys check it out great job offer here from our boy vexel...or teranvoa....in 2013:
    http://www.conceptart.org/forums/sho...Artists-Wanted

    but wait its back again 2014:
    http://www.conceptart.org/go/jobs/jo...rtists-needed/


    clearly not enough interest so here it is again with a bonus...nice:
    http://www.conceptart.org/forums/sho...61#post3821461
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    This is the apology I feel VS needs to give out in multiple communities:


    Dear artists and art enthusiasts,

    We (I) have made many considerable errors in judgement since last October. We (I) were out of line when we (I) accused the artist in question of being unprofessional and doing bad work. Our (my) attempt to destroy the artist's reputation in multiple communities through multiple threads was exceedingly unprofessional and uncalled for and we (I) are very sorry.

    Additionally, we (I) apologize for being overly defensive, unjustly argumentative, and accusing multiple members of being one person while spreading derogatory false accusations about those members. We (I) still have a lot to learn about this industry and we (I) want to do our best to set things right.

    We (I) do not intend to change the name of Vexel Studios because we (I) need to take full responsibility for our (my) actions and show people that we (I) have grown from this experience, rather than hide from it.

    Again, we (I) are deeply sorry for the issues we (I) have started.

    Thank you for your time,
    Vexel Studios


    This would be a reasonably nice apology....but it won't happen. Not unless it's followed with something like- "but we were dealing with a bad artist."
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