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    Galley katamari

    Picking stuff up as I go.

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    HEEEEEEY, I had a little time today to take some photos of my sketchbooks, I wanted to get 'em up here so I could chart my progress a little and maybe to get a little advice what to do next.

    So, I started drawing with purpose about a year and a half ago, mainly figures, working my way through some of Loomis using a lot of photo ref. I had drawn a bit before this; when I was a teen I had one of those how to draw manga that I drew from every now and again, I would do copies of movie posters sometimes and things of that nature, but all rather aimless.

    Some pages from the "first" sketchbook:

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    I didn't really like Loomis, I think I found his manikin more complicated to draw than just drawing the figure straight off, I guess because I couldn't relate it to the real world. After doing a bit of research I moved on Vilppu when I started a new sketchbook. around this time I also discovered Proko on youtube.

    I've not included and gesture or bean drawing, just a section of figure figures:

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    I think I had some success with villpu's teaching but when I came to start the next sketchbook I decided to try Bridgeman and push to learn some anatomy. It was at this point that I starting going to figure drawing sessions, the first few drawing here are from some of them

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    The last image was drawn (with no ref) towards the end of March and was the last figure drawing I did, mainly through frustration. I think I made okay improvement but I didn't even know where to begin when it came to creating a finished illustration or concept so since then I've switch my energy over to digital painting, doing some masters studies and a couple of EOWs trying an 'on the job' style of learning.

    oh and drawing faces, because I can do it sneakily on the train and I've always been terrible at it ( gonna post some of that work a little later)

    does this change of direction make sense?
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    Quick update

    To help with learning how to draw faces and for fun I'm gonna make little animations for the turns, tilts and changes in perspective. here is the first one covering turning of the head at eye level

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    And here is a couple of drawings from reference for a down tilt. the way I plan on doing the animations is to spend a few days drawing from ref. then animate from memory.

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    value study:

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    I'll be working on this more throughout the week
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    long work day, so just a small update

    2hrs in, because I'm slooow

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    Here is a Selection of the digital painting I've been trying. it's all landscapes from ref or Old Masters studies

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    Face drawing (mostly peeps on the train)

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    annnd trying the down tilt animation thang.

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    s'more faces, from imagination

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    WAAII... INCREDIBLE.

    Please.. Please keep drawing here.

    Moremoremore!

    I love the drawings of the train folk. There's tons of personality to your drawings.

    I think if I were going to give you any advice, it would be to push outside your comfort zone. Do the things you find the hardest to do, and find a way to make them fun. I think that's key-- Because if we hate anything we do, we won't be able to improve as well as if we like it.

    And I'm good at coming up with ideas, so if you posit what you find to be hard or no-fun, I will shoot out a billion ideas to try to help put it into another perspective to make it fun (It'd also help to know your favourite things to draw too, if you want ideas!)

    Do some value studies, cast drawings, anatomy, life drawings, perspective:perspective:perspective!

    OVER 9000!
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    Misty Feather: damn that comment made me smile, thank you! Perspective is the devil, I keep thinking it's gonna be easy, just a few simple rules to follow but nothing ever turns out looking right, I reckon it's something to do with scale or lenses, I wish I could get lenses to sit right in my brain. it might just be that I find it hard to concentrate to the very end of perspective practice, perspective is tedious. Wait, that's probs the wrong attitude, hold on... Perspective is... erm, rad!

    I tried it anyway. I live in Manchester, UK and I love it, it's all old and industrial so my perspective practice is mainly gonna be drawing some of the buildings around here.

    This is a start I made to drawing the old fire station, I can see it from my room

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    and a couple of sketches of it

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    Drew a few faces too, just photo ref. from Quickpose

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    I dont feel like i've done enough today so i'll post an old EOW I had a go at to keep it a bit more interesting

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    might see if I can fit a bit of painting in before sleep
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joegalley View Post
    Misty Feather: damn that comment made me smile, thank you! Perspective is the devil, I keep thinking it's gonna be easy, just a few simple rules to follow but nothing ever turns out looking right, I reckon it's something to do with scale or lenses, I wish I could get lenses to sit right in my brain. it might just be that I find it hard to concentrate to the very end of perspective practice, perspective is tedious. Wait, that's probs the wrong attitude, hold on... Perspective is... erm, rad!

    I tried it anyway. I live in Manchester, UK and I love it, it's all old and industrial so my perspective practice is mainly gonna be drawing some of the buildings around here.

    This is a start I made to drawing the old fire station, I can see it from my room

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    and a couple of sketches of it

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    Drew a few faces too, just photo ref. from Quickpose

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    I dont feel like i've done enough today so i'll post an old EOW I had a go at to keep it a bit more interesting

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    might see if I can fit a bit of painting in before sleep
    Wow, amazing! You've got a really good handle on things.

    I'm glad you're choosing subject material that you like. That's really key! And that you're willing to do the tedious stuff as well as the fun stuff says a whole WHOLE lot about your dedication! You're gonna get there in no time at all!

    I really need to start pushing my perspective study too. Perspective is in everything, and I have an intuitive tenuous grasp of it, but I really have to reach past and pull up the hard stuff. It is tedious, but I think if you try enough at something, once it clicks, it becomes REALLY fun!
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    WIP for EOW

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    now sleep
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    Oh goodness amazing sketches. They're so fun to look at especially the faces. Your figures look so fluid and the feet study page looks amazing. Very inspiring so keep up the good work!
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    Hey

    Spent the day doing something for EOW so I don't know if I'll get many sketches up today, might try and draw some faces later at least but I'm pretty beat.

    Here is the EOW piece, the topic was 'The wall' tried to keep it simple since I paint so gosh darn slowly and left it until the last day.

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    Uyeno: Thanks man! you totes beat me hands down when it comes to drawing fluid figures though

    Mistey: Hasn't clicked yet I remain optimistic though. Scott Robinson has a really good book that deals with perspective called how to draw which might be fun for you to check out if your looking to do some perspective work, comes with videos too. I'm keeping an eye on your sketchbook to make sure you do some perspective too, since you got me working on it
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    tried to paint some face

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