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Thread: Unqualified tutors
May 25th, 2014 #1
Have you ever stumbled upon a tutor or met an art teacher who was clearly unqualified to teach even the basics? I mean someone who just didn't have decent level of draftmanship and was still teaching classes or doing online tutorials.
I am asking this because i watched some video tutorials of a guy namend Martin Perhiniak when i was very young and even then i noticed that there was something weird about his drawings.
Looking back i can say that the weird thing about them is that they are godawful and now i am glad that i didn't bother to keep watching or taking advice from them.
For some reason i just remembered this occurrence.
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There are tons of bad tutorials out there. I sometimes go on a trawl of youtube, and gah... Maybe we should set up The Art Police
May 26th, 2014 #3
May 26th, 2014 #4
Let's not forget the wonderful tutorials from Deviantart. Some of them aren't even tutorials, just a step-by-step process how the artist makes shiny eyes with no words with the label 'tutorial' slapped on it.
May 26th, 2014 #5
There is a german saying that goes "Das Gegenteil von gut ist gut gemeint." which roughly translates to 'the opposite of good is well-meant'. It applies wonderfully to these things.
And i always feel like i've been touched inappropriately after i visited Deviantart.
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I feel like a good artist does not equal a good teacher. You could get taught by the best artists to ever live but they might be crap at teaching you. Just like you should take critique regardless of the other person's merits. Even though with someone who is newer you always have to talk it with a grain of salt. I feel like someone can educate them self to be a better teacher than a skilled artist just winging it.
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The first one I can think of is my high school art teacher...
I don't know if this will count as unqualified tutor but let's just say that her "painting technique" was quite...unconventional.
One of the class's assignments was to make a painting with watercolor pencils.
As you all probably know they are like colored pencils but you can add water with a paintbrush to mix them.
During the classes she would sit down next to the girls closest to her and do this mini demos were she would paint on the students' painting.
So she would take the student's canvas, color with the watercolor pencils and then she would take the paintbrush,
BUT! instead of dipping it into the glass of water, like any non-crazy person would do, she would put the paintbrush in her mouth and start sucking it so that the fibers would soak up all of her saliva and then use it to paint with D:
And if you think that she would only do this with a clean paintbrush , nope you are wrong. As soon as the paintbrush went dry she would put it back again in her mouth and suck it again to wet it and go back to painting Bleeeergh! DX
I was just glad she never did that to my painting, I think I used to sit at the far back to avoid this haha.
Btw, the classes were of course horrible, but back then I had no interest in working as an artist so I didn't really care. It was more like an arts and crafts jail time to be honest :/
May 27th, 2014 #8
Not that there aren't any good ones like that, but they're REALLLLLY hard to come by.
Even with more decent general drawing books I had to go through at least five or six (translated to Finnish, I was looking for a gift book for a beginner artist) before I found the first that talked about using basic shapes as a help do draw, most of them were either anatomy guides or more that sort of "take an animal photo and copy it".
As for teachers, I wouldn't consider them as unqualified, but what I wanted from the courses differed from what the teachers did, as in, in here most actual artists are contemporary ones, and don't really concentrate on depicting things accurately in illustration sense so in here you are not likely to find a course that would go through actual constructing of the figure, but they helped me with other stuff (use of line, shading, composition etc).
May 27th, 2014 #9
well yes.. you can find tons of stuff from youtube and from other channels over the internet, but they are free. And as they say: "free things are worth every penny".
But it's really bad if you pay for a such tutorial. For example in DigitalTurors they have painting and design whitch are awful. actually they are that bad that you should google a little longer to find better free tutorial or buy one of those cheap how-to manga books.
How they are not ashamed to charge for these things at Digita Tutors? 3d program basic and software UI intros are fine.
May 27th, 2014 #10
It is a shame but yes, especially books and videos. These days there is too much information that it takes time and effort to figure out whats really gonna help you achieve your goals.
Sometimes free is more expensive in the end.
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Wait, if Christopher Hart is such a bad tutor (one of his book covers was shown in this topic), then why does he get so much praise? I've seen hate for him on other corners of the internet, but his books get positive reviews, and he's even praised on his dA page.
Not trying to argue that he's actually good, but I'm rather confused.
May 30th, 2014 #12
Therefore these consumers will praise the book because they just don't know any better and get quick results. It's the same with the crappy video tutorials, they get praise from unexperienced artists even though they hinder their learning progress in a long run.
May 30th, 2014 #13
Then five years later after seeing a hundred anime series you look back to that one that looked so good back then and realize it was actually total crap. Like, there was a time when I thought the direct to video Land Before Time/Disney/Balto sequels weren't that bad... I didn't know any better, which is pretty much what their reason to exist depended on.
It can also happen the other way around, you ignore something as a kid and only later realize how good it actually was.
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June 1st, 2014 #14
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June 3rd, 2014 #15
There's a blog on Tumblr, forgot its name, where people can add themselves to a directory to offer to be mentors to other artists.
Out of curiosity I checked out some of the galleries of these people, and... nope. Every single one of them -- well, let's just say they should be the ones looking for mentors.