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    Question Fantasy Illo - Finished

    *UPDATE* Sort of repurposing this as a WIP thread...converting previous composition images to links... Updates are at bottom*/UPDATE*

    Hey folks. Working on some illos for an RPG for a friend of mine. Pretty much open subject, so here's the first I"m doing, a full page fantasy type piece based off of a fairly loose sketch. Right now I'm just trying to figure out the values and get some of the background working to help the composition.

    Ignore the rendering and quick shadows thrown down, but please do comment on the value choices and how I can make the larger areas of value better balanced. I'm also open to suggestions on how to use the background (in particular the sky and any additional foreground elements) to balance the composition of the rider and beast.

    Here's the current sort of value blobbing:
    http://www.forestzachman.com/images/...copy.sized.jpg

    Here's a composition/value group I was playing with before (with the sketch turned on). I noticed I was starting with too many blacks/whites so I tried to cut those back in the version above to give me more room to punch things out later. I also eliminated the crappy tangent with the lance you can see in this version.
    http://www.forestzachman.com/images/..._1_a.sized.jpg

    Thanks for looking folks.
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    if the creatures is going to be light, i'd make the sky behind him dark (and then fade lighter). if he's going to be dark, i'd make the sky like it is (light to dark).

    i think it would help his shape, but it also depends on the lighting you have in mind.
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    Thanks Mike..you know...after posting this last night and going to bed, I couldn't help but think that maybe the value choices for the creature and the ground were wrong...I couldn't help think maybe the creature/rider should be generally darker, and the ground should be lighter....hmm...still not sure how to play this up.

    And I was thinking about lighting from the upper left, slightly in front of the figure.
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    Hi there!

    Does the front limbs of the creature strike you as being too much ''hominid''? Looks like they are more suited for gripping then locomotion. Maybe it's just doing ''push-ups''. eheheh.

    Sorry it's not what you were asking for I just noticed.

    Can't wait to see it done.
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    Haha, no, JSDuret, you are correct. The anatomy for the beast was very much based off of a human and not an animal, as I just got done studying human anatomy. I'm planning on ordering a few animal drawing books and searching the net for some pictures for refs now that you've called me on that. Thanks!
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    OK, I think I'm liking this value scheme a lot better.

    http://www.forestzachman.com/images/...copy.sized.jpg
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    i'm curious, what is the goal of the piece? what are you trying to show?
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    Hehe, honestly, at the beginning, I didn't really know. I'm really just trying to turn a sketch I had into a final illustration for my friends book.

    As it stands, I'm thinking it's a victorious warrior, although I'm thinking he may not be a "good guy" per se. In the version I'm working with now I've placed a fallen victim under the left claw of the beast (our left, his right), while those streams in the background are smoke from some sort of fire in the background (burning village? who knows)...

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    I was looking at the value changes in the pictures and noticed you changed the guys spear, and was wondering why...

    I was just trying to think what you were trying to accomplish with the lighting, the values and the overall feelings and drawings in the piece...

    just curious mostly...
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    Ah...the value change in the spear is a simple block in and I was just trying to get it to contrast with the sky. I also wanted it to have a gleaming metal tip so I was trying to work in a darker background around that area so I could sort of play up the gleam on it. But yeah, basically since I lightened the sky, I darkened the spear so it wouldn't be lost.
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    changing the spear was a good a move, changed the whole composition of the piece in a good way, sets up the horizon/ground and the spear as two strong parrallel lines

    value wise heres frazettas take
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    since subject wise there pretty close, i thought what the heck hope it helps.
    as you can see what you have right now is pretty good, you could even push your lights and darks further.

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    Heya Jose. Thanks for the reply! And definately thanks for that Frazetta comparison. I suppose at this stage in my art, it definately can't hurt to take some pointers from great paintings like that. Just flipped through my copy of Icon and found that painting. I think I'll probably end up borrowing quite heavily from it in certain aspects. And I definately agree about pushing the values...I was just trying to work out an overall balance to the picture at first.

    I only worked on it a little tonight but here's an update:
    http://www.forestzachman.com/images/..._2_b.sized.jpg
    *edit* converted to link to save me some bandwidth */edit*

    (BTW, this piece will remain a b/w illustration)
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    please get rid of that flag pole comming out of his head! I know it's still early in dev. so that is my only concern as of now.
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