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    the room of narcotic anonymous

    Does this work as a neo-expressionistic work
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    Nope.

    I was once on the receiving end of a critique so savagely nasty, I marched straight out of class to the office and changed my major (sketchbook).
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    anymore

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    I think your only real problem is that you think that by rejecting realism your art becomes better or unique, the idea that expression/feeling can be conveyed better through quick impressions with no regard for any of the fundamentals is just wrong..

    Until that changes you are doomed to producing art that is unrelatable(Apparently not a word).
    I.e No one will want to have it in their house (from previous thread)

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    honestly i was striving for a more realistic style and i think i achieved that. Man, ya'll have to understand, majority of us (painters) will never draw like Michaelangelo or Durer. I don't understand how my painting doesn't work. Your painting just mystifies why it doesn't work even more. What you painted is even more unrealistic.

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    also, i am not trying to sound abrasive. I am just being honest.

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    Here's an analogy. If you want to have your drivers license, you don't need to be one of the best drivers in the world, you simply need to be able to drive without being a danger to others. Well it's similar for art, there's a level of fundamentals and understanding you need to reach to produce quality art. For now your fundamentals are my analogys' equivalent of running over pedestrians.

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    "What you painted is even more unrealistic."

    huh?..

    I'm not saying the paintover is perfect by any means.. I Don't have hours to fix your art.. but I think you're operating under some serious misconceptions..

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    Quote Originally Posted by darnis View Post
    "What you painted is even more unrealistic."

    huh?..

    I'm not saying the paintover is perfect by any means.. I Don't have hours to fix your art.. but I think you're operating under some serious misconceptions..
    But do you know how to ARTICULATE these misconceptions. Your drawing just made me more confused

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    Quote Originally Posted by stephou View Post
    Here's an analogy. If you want to have your drivers license, you don't need to be one of the best drivers in the world, you simply need to be able to drive without being a danger to others. Well it's similar for art, there's a level of fundamentals and understanding you need to reach to produce quality art. For now your fundamentals are my analogys' equivalent of running over pedestrians.
    ARTICULATE. Give me a criticism. Not just, Oh its wrong. I can draw really well.

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    It's not even articulating that's the problem here, you honestly believe that your style is remotely close to realism. When it's really not.

    I'm not sure if you're just trolling or have a problem with perception/eyesight now..

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    Quote Originally Posted by darnis View Post
    It's not even articulating that's the problem here, you honestly believe that your style is remotely close to realism. When it's really not.

    I'm not sure if you're just trolling or have a problem with perception/eyesight now..
    Theres your first problem. I said this particular painting is CLOSER to realism. I make abstract art/neo-expressionism. I don't understand the point of your painting either? Its not a good representation of whatever you are trying to articulate.

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    I think the image has some entertaining features. You've got a little bit of caricature going and some of the shapes aren't bad and have sort of an interesting movement, it has a jittery feel to it. Search more, work on the hands, push it far into realism and then bring what you learned from it back into your stylization.

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    It's not closer to realism.. You keep saying it is, it's not..
    None of your paintings are... even remotely close to realism whatsoever..

    You keep saying you have a style but I'm not seeing it :/

    All I'm seeing are poorly constructed flat paintings of aliens or midgets,(Last few)
    or this time snake neck monsters with large eyes.

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    thanks armando. I was striving for a more realistic feel. There were certain things i did with this one that i normally don't do. To me this is an intermidate expressionistic work. I can draw but usually my drawing doesn't translate to paintings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darnis View Post
    It's not closer to realism.. You keep saying it is, it's not..
    None of your paintings are... even remotely close to realism whatsoever..

    You keep saying you have a style but I'm not seeing it :/

    All I'm seeing are poorly constructed flat paintings of aliens or midgets,(Last few)
    or this time snake neck monsters with large eyes.

    ...then we look at YOUR portfolio and see that I am not THAT bad.

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYmn3Gwn3oI

    k, I'm done, you were right stoat, remind me never to question your judgement again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darnis View Post
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYmn3Gwn3oI

    k, I'm done, you were right stoat, remind me never to question your judgement again.
    Don't feel bad about it. This guy has been spaming loads of websites with the same shitty 'art' since forever, without any improvement, always starting arguments and never listening. At least he's a good example of everything you shouldn't do.

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    am i the only one that sees that his rendition of my painting is just...

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    It looks like the rooms of Alcoholics Anonymous

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    I actually don't think this is a bad attempt. Again, your lighting is not wholly consistent.The hair of the left of the picture should be lit. And what is causing that shadow on her neck?

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