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    TroublingTim - Composition 1.1

    This study took about an hour, I feel I did not have enough time to to do the shape
    and values accurately.Although that could come with practice, or I could increase the amount of time I have next time I do one.

    One observation I had is the v or arrow shape created by the bent over trees pointing towards the focal point in the painting.

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    I took a bit longer on this one, about an hour and 45 minutes.I found it rather hard to get the shapes correct and to get everything in the right size and position in the composition.Overall I feel like I'm getting a better hang of this but I still have a ton to learn.

    What I noticed about this piece was with how much contrast there is between the main figure and the back/foreground elements, it really makes her stand out.


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    Hey, nice start! Your shapes themselves look good, but in the first picture they are out of proportion (the man and mammoth are both too large). Be sure to measure things out or compare horizontal/vertical lines using straight lines on the canvas or holding up a pencil - whatever is easiest - before you commit to your major shapes.
    Your values could still use some work too. Note how shadowed much of the foreground and trees should be in the first image, and how bright the sky is behind the mammoth's head. A couple places are off in the second pic too.
    That said, I see a lot of improvement between the first and second pictures, so it looks like you already have a good idea of where to go. Great job, keep it up!
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    Thanks for the critique Dahlia, I'll try and check my horizontals and verticals next study.
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    Here is a quick half an hour study, I feel like I'm starting to learn to get in my shapes more quickly and accurately.With this piece I observed how the darkest values in the painting draws you towards the focal point.

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    this one took about 2 hours, looking at I already notice a lot of the shapes are off things like the girls arm being bigger ect; I feel like at my current speed I need about 4 hours to be accurate but these are compositional studies.

    Composition wise I notice quite a lot of negative shapes which guide the viewer's eye.Also a lot of blocks of color which really frames he focal point.

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    Ok great to see where you are at. When you are first getting started it is very important to really focus in on the mapping out of your shapes as accurately as you can possibly get them. If you put a shape in the wrong place and commit you end up having the other shapes off and require fixing, which increases painting time. By taking just a few extra minutes early on to measure out your shapes, to compare your shapes, and be sure they are placed and drawn accurately will make the rest of the painting process, working out your values and edges, much much easier.

    You should flip the images horizontally and vertically so that you see the shapes with fresh eyes. This should be part of the process and if you are already doing that, keep doing it more. The professional artists will often flip images or use a mirror to see with fresh eyes as many as three or four times a minute as they are working when things really get flowing. You can also back away...actually get up and back away...and doing this works for shapes as well as checking values and edges.

    Keep up the good work.


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    Thanks Jason for the tips, I tried flipping and spending more time trying to get the shapes accurately this time I think it turned out ok other the face which is definitely off.Spent about 2 hours in total on the study.

    The composition on this piece is interesting, I like how the white cloth brings attention up towards the face.

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    Nice start. Your marks seem a little busy..so watch for that. You are headed in the right direction though. When you get your shapes worked out well, pay very close attention to the values. You want to match the values you see as closely as you can. It is important to be very honest about what you are seeing. try to put the accurate value down with each stroke as otherwise you end up having to fix things along the way and being accurate will save you time. Really take the time to observe and compare and choose the right value. If you are off, adjust it, don't keep working and come back to it. You are doing great...just need to focus in on value a little more.


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    Another portrait study, took a bit to long with this one had to cut it short.

    I noticed the complete lack of detail in the darkest shadows, and more detail towards the focal point of the painting.Arm and hand points towards head.

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    T his one was an hour, I noticed how t here is a c shaped rhythm leading your eye to the focal point.

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    1 one hour study and an hour and a half study.

    This one was interesting because the way the cliffs frame the character in the painting.


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    The contrast and detail on the helmet really attracts your eye towards the head.

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    Spent about an hour on this one, I noticed there seems to be more detail in the environment surrounding the girl and on her skirt.The papers on the wall create an interesting rhythm that draws my eye one side of the painting.

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