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    proportion/perspective

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    can someone help me find any errors in perspective + proportion in my sketch? Using this work to study things as I run into them and I'd like to get this part down first. Subject is supposed to be a female character ( probably assassin or swordsman ) in a stance, where back is slightly hunched and more weight is placed on the back foot.

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    update

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    leg fix

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    It's not easy to construct figures with heavy perspective. At the moment this doesn't look right. I would work from reference myself...

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    I think you are using a male frame for the body. In addition legs are oversized. shoulders a little too high and too wide for this frame. your back should be hunched a bit but instead it is straight.

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    started again using simple forms

    this is so difficult

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    update

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    that's what i think (example super exaggerated)

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    started AGAIN...

    Made the pose more dynamic and changed the perspective to simple side view. Don't know why I chose the previous perspective in the first place, side view shows the stance better.

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    I would recommend reference as well. If you can't find a photo maybe ask a friend to pose. Additionally, try yourself to stand in the poses that you are drawing. Sometimes you find out standing like that is very uncomfortable, or that for example the knee should bend out instead of in.

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    @ Schraverus: Sometimes I feel like using a mannequin in 3D software just for reference, but it feels like 'cheating' just thinking about it. Changed pose to slightly more comfortable- now I have to try make the leg look forshortened somehow.

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    If you don't have a solid grasp of either perspective or proportions, using reference is not "cheating". How are you going to draw it convincingly unless you actually know what it looks like?

    Build a maquette, try the pose with a mirror, pose a digital model if you don't have anything else, but stop this guesswork. This is what, the third attempt you made? You're going in circles and getting nowhere, really. It's time to start looking at how things actually work.

    Also: when you are doing a figure in perspective, make sure that it and the environment are in *the same* perspective. You can't slap two random perspectives together, everything must match.

    Also: perspective is easier to plot on paper with a ruler. Sketching is easier and faster with pencil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arenhaus View Post
    If you don't have a solid grasp of either perspective or proportions, using reference is not "cheating". How are you going to draw it convincingly unless you actually know what it looks like?

    Build a maquette, try the pose with a mirror, pose a digital model if you don't have anything else, but stop this guesswork. This is what, the third attempt you made? You're going in circles and getting nowhere, really. It's time to start looking at how things actually work.

    Also: when you are doing a figure in perspective, make sure that it and the environment are in *the same* perspective. You can't slap two random perspectives together, everything must match.

    Also: perspective is easier to plot on paper with a ruler. Sketching is easier and faster with pencil.
    I've been using a mirror but I suck replicating the form in a different perspective. And I'm going to remove the environment, since it wasn't planned with the figure. Anyway, I'll stop being stupid and posting guesswork. Thanks for the advice everyone- going back to the boring stuff now(with reference )

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