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    Ex-spectator Composition 1.1

    Really enjoying this thread. I am new to digital painting so I am pretty slow.

    Here is my first attempt.

    I chose George Caleb Bingham's "Fur traders descending the missouri" because of the the balance between the empty top half and busy bottom half and the balance of the reflection in the water and the cat in silhouette.

    After an hour it looked like this
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    and after an hour and a half it looked like this - I'm not sure if it has improved..
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    All comments are welcome.

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    Next, I chose this Van Gough because of the rhythm and movement in the sky and throughout the whole painting but I found it very tough and didn't make much progress. I think I should try something a little easier next time.

    Any suggestions?

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    Here is my next attempt. A John Singer Sargent. I was looking at the emphasis and focus on the eyes of the boy compared to the rest of the painting which is something I've not looked at in the past.

    The face took 2 or 3 goes to get to this stage which is where all the time went but I need to getting a better likeness.

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    I'm ignoring the 1 hour limit until i get used to it, take your time to get the shapes and values right, i heard that from the admin himself so i think it's alright if you do that. Once you get the general feel of it, zoom in a little and start adding more detail, then zoom in again and add even more small detail... That's why i think you don't see much difference in the first one when you spent one more hour on it. Also i suggest trying to do a study from a painting that has bigger and more clear value shapes, like a portrait maybe, that's easier for me, altough that might be different for you. Btw thanks for your comment in my thread ^^

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    watch your edges...especially look for the sharp edges in the original as you tend to go a little bit soft edged in quite a few places. treat it like a quality control pass at the end, before you upload. if you can get your edges to crisp up appropriately these will be one step closer to where they need to be.


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    I chose this Leyendecker portrait because I love the underlying shapes in his work that bring continuity to it.
    In this portrait for example, there is a line that starts between the bridge of his nose and his eye and comes down towards his cheek and curls up the side of his head through his hair. There are loads of these throughout all Leyendecker's pictures.

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    My initial drawing could have been better and as I worked through it I found I was fighting against it but hopefully it isn't to distracting.

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    hi expectator; your older stuff looks good, but the last one, you really need to get it the same size as the original. the proportions are off and the angle, but it's a lot harder to tell like this.

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    5. NC Wyeth

    I chose this Wyeth because of the repetitive horizontal lines down the whole painting and the symmetry between the horses head and the girls hair which I didn't see until I squinted to look at the values.

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    I spent longer on the initial layout in this one but I still need further focus on my edges I think.

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    this most recent one you did a great job with the shapes. your values are a bit more contrasting than the original though making yours seem llike it has a little bit different lighting conditions and values on the saddle and stuff. keep a close eye on your values and double check and triple check them before uploading. you can do this. keep up the good work.


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    Thanks for the the feedback.

    Here are a couple more pictures.

    6. De Zurbaran - St Francis kneeling
    I chose this because of the very strong distinction between the darks and light which balance well and the strong shapes are great.

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    7. Levitan - Moonlit night. A village.
    I came across Isaac Levitan the other day on Wikipaintings and I liked his stuff straight away. This painting has many different lines coming from the horizon creating balance and unity. The original focus is on the dark tree in the centre but you follow it down to the horizon and off in many directions, the repetition of the trees and their reflections is very nice as well.

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    great job with your shapes. you are pushing your values with too much contrast...ie your darks and lights are strong and you are increasing cnotrast where things are a little closer together value wise. keep working on getting your values laid in accurately ok? That lighting condition range you study in all these will sink in so be sure you are studying those values as closely as you can.

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    8. Sargent
    Another sargeant portrait. Hopefully my greys are closer together in this one.

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    nice start...love that painting. double check your shapes/edges and get the light light in there and this one will wrap up well.

    keep it up!

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    9. I love Sorolla and this one has some great rhythms in the sails and the waves. I'm spent longer trying to get the colors closer and the edges better but I kind of get to a point I cant see anything else.

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    I'll go back and finish up the sargent portrait based on Jason's observations.

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    Well I've been back to try fix the sargent portrait and the more I try to fix it the worse it looks some Im going to move on. I guess I was too keen to get to work on the values - I must make sure my original drawing is accurate first before moving onto the values.

    Anyway onto study number 10.

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    looking good. you could strengthen the light on the sails a bit and this one will be really great. nice work on getting it all set up too.


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    10. Vermeer
    The focal point of this painting is the face which is emphasised by the lightness on the lefthand side of the face. Then I find myself taken up to the top of the head and down by the head scarf before focusing on the earring last.

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    Having posted this it looks a lot lighter than it did when working on it - especially the background. I'll have a quick go at fixing it. Not sure why this is, I've noticed it slightly in the past but it's never been as pronounced as this.

    Here it is with a darker background

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    keep working on getting the background value right. i think you went a little dark and contrasty this time. also, watch the value gradations that occur between values. vermeer is very soft and subtle about that.

    keep it up. good start.


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    11. Velasquez
    I saw this the other week in the flesh so thought it would be good to do.

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    I don't feel as if I'm getting any better at these.

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    Here is The girl with the pearl earring with an other hour or so work.

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    Perhaps I should keep working on this rather than trying to get to 20 asap?

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    Very nice work on your shapes. I want you to focus on your values in the next one. Install a "I will check my values now" checkpoint where you go in and double and then triple check your values. Right now is the perfect stage to do so. Look for the overall big shapes first and kind of check them off as they get smaller and smaller. You will find that once you get the biggest shapes on point the rest will fall into place pretty quickly. I have been really pushing this tonight and think that once you do this you will see a big bump in quality.

    Keep it up.


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    was looking again...you draw well...you see shapes particularly well. I am agreeing with myself that the values are your biggest immediate challenge. Check the overall values constantly. Keep them in the front of your mind and your eyes upon them

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