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    Fincks - Color & Light 1.1

    More difficult than I expected. As usual, some wrong proportions/anatomy. It's actually the second one. The first was really bad. I looked up at other thread, learned some things and tried again.
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    I'll make another one tomorrow, take more time to map out the shapes.

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    couple things....

    nice range of values on the portrait. good work there.

    now, to move forward i would suggest putting values in the background that are closer to what you see, so that you capture the same feeling of atmosphere. also double check the placement of the eyes by looking to see where each eye is looking. they should both be looking at the same point of space. even draw a line out from the eye, imaginary line, with your finger and see if you can find the point that each eye is looking. getting the eyes placed well is super key and cam overcome a lot of other drawing or painting issues if you get that feeling right.

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    @Jason : Thanks for the critique.
    Well, this is definitly not me. It's beyond creepy. There really is no emotion in this painting, it's like he is frozen dead. Like you said, the eyes really are important in a portrait.
    They don't look in the same direction. I tried to place a line to where they were looking, but it didn't work.
    I took more time to map out the shapes, I think it's generally better. It does really help to have the real value in the background by the way !

    Well, mmaybe another one tomorrow I guess. Some eye studies wouldn't hurt either.
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    Dude this is a big improvement from the first. I agree with you, some eye studies will really help strengthen things. Great job, keep pushing forward!

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    @Bri in the sky : Thanks !

    Here are 2/3 studies of eyes and the nose and that's all for tonight :
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    I will need to make studies with two eyes. I think that's what is challenging for me. Having the two of them look in the same direction, same size etc.
    I'll try a self portrait tomorrow again.

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    Lol you have that same terrified look on your face I have on my driver's license picture. It's because your eyes are open too wide - if you can see white above the iris it means the person is shocked or terrified. Most of the time people's upper lid covers the top part of the iris the way you did in the last studies (which are looking good by the way). Try looking up a channel on youtube called Proko and check out his head drawing tutorials if you haven't seen them already - extremely helpful.

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    You must have one hell of a picture /lmao
    Now that you say it, in all the references I gathered today, the upper lid always covers the top of the iris. I really need to observe things more carefully !
    Oh, I've seen them a long time ago, the only thing I remember is that they were really good . Thanks for the channel :B.

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    I would suggest you paint some spheres with an overhead or 3/4 light setup, from life, so that you really pay attention to volumes. your light will directly correspond to the planes of the head, eye etc...which face the light source. as each plane shifts in space or turns in space, it will change values, gradually getting darker and darker as the planes turn away from the single light source.

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    Hey ! I took a little break of 2 days but hopefully I'm back !
    Here is the sphere from life. Done with the soft brush to have a better transition between the mass shadow/light
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    Tonight or tomorrow I'll apply what I've learn with the sphere study. Trying to render each "planes" of the head as I did with the sphere.

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    I think I'm gonna stop this exercise for now. I made another try but I'm stopped by anatomy issue which makes me really frustrated.
    Is there another way to complete this exercise without doing a self portrait (still life study etc) or is it really related to it ?
    I know that you can't improve if you don't practice but anatomy really is my biggest flaw and if this exercise really needs to be a self portrait, I think it would be better to focus on anatomy alone, without lighting first.

    If it is, I'm just gonna continue Composition 1.1 and the other assignment in the Level up thread and get back to this one later.

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    We all get frustrated buddy it is just part of the process. Whilst anatomy studies are of huge importance, I think this assignment is more about observation. Sure if you understand what's going on underneath the surface of the skin it makes things easier but I don't think it's essential at this stage. Think of your face as a landscape, make measurements, think about where lines intersect, look at the angles etc Forget you are looking at you, then just try and build up the shapes and values as best you can. There was a moment when doing my own that I forgot I was even human. Observed my cheekbone for so long that everything became abstract and lost all meaning, and for a brief moment I was a raccoon snuggled up in a warm burrow somewhere...... But yeah, remember we are all here to learn and to help, perhaps you should take a break then come back and have another go.

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    When you do your master studies, choose a handful at least, that are portraits. the sphere exercise is excellent...watch your edges on the cast shadow though as you seem a little sharp there. great form though on the ball itself.

    art is supposed to be frustrating...it hurts sometimes, like falling off a bike before you learn to not fall off a bike. If it were easy, everyone would do it

    You have talent..just keep at it and don't let frustration get in your way.


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    @ Bri in the sky : That's what someone once told me. Trying to look at it in another way. But anatomy has become this huge impossible thing to surpass in my mind, so frustration comes a lot quicker than with other exercises. I'll take a break on this one and come back later, maybe at the end of the week. But this time I will be prepared and won't let my frustration stop me!

    @Jason : Thanks ! Ok, I have one or two Sargent study in stock, they will fit perfectly.
    I tend to get frustrated very quickly, I guess I need to work on that too .

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    frustration is part of the process...no pain no gain. put on some music and ignore that mood...that voice of frustration is distracting so tell it to %%%% off and keep pushing. You just have to work through it. when breakthroughs come they feel so good that any frustration is worth it.

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    @Jason : I'm starting to be more optimistic and confident that I can improve with the progress I've made in Composition 1.1. It's beginning to be easier to manage my frustration

    So, I'm back on this exercise. I think I learn enough things in the Composition 1.1 to be able to improve in this one.
    I've spent almost 3h on this one, it's late so I think I'm done for tonight. As I was always watching the mirror, I never had the idea to flip...
    I can already see some mistakes, mainly the features area (especially the nostril which was already something I had a hard with time in the previous ones), but I think that if I pay enough attention at my mistakes in this one, I am confident that I can improve in the next ones I will post thanks to the masters studies I've done.
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    Little correction of proportion.
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    my old art lead used to tell me 'no biggie smalls'...as in don't worry about the little things yet. The nostril is less of a concern than perhaps the shirt or making sure the overall head structure and shapes are as accurate as you can make them. What you will find is if you get all the big things looking good, the little ones come along really easily. I am happy to hear that you are building up confidence. that made my day. Just keep at it.

    For your master studies please do a couple of rembrandt/sargent portraits so you can look for brush stroke size, shape, and direction on the face. If you can see they are using the same type of strokes (zorn is another one), then you can incorporate some of that into your stuff.


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