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    Samuel - Composition 1.1

    Hi!

    So today the journey begins and I think it will be fun!
    I decided to try out Rembrandt for my first study. I must say i struggled quite a bit, I usually sketch out lines and such first but here I just went with a bigger brush from the start. I really enjoyed it even if I would have liked a better result
    Looking forward to do more of these!

    When i saw this painting i did enjoy the contrast with the details and lack of details in the picture, with the right side being covered in shadow.

    English is not my first language, just a side note!
    I do believe I will need to look into texturebrushes and how to use them for future studides.

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    I ran out of time on this one, I think I tend to get stuck on unnecessary details that don't add anything to the pictur. I will work on that.

    I like how Frazetta framed the girl in this one and using the branches movement and the contrast beetween the girl and the moon to put even more emphasis on her.

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    Nice start. Keep a very close eye on your shapes. You are guessing a little bit. Double checking positive and negative shapes will help improve these a lot.

    Watch your edges too...if an edge is looking too sharp or standing out too much it is either too sharp or the abutting shape is a little too dark or light. Watch those things.

    Keep up the good work.



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    thanks Jason for the pointers! I will try to keep them in mind

    I'm just a sucker for economics. I love how Mead Schaeffer in this picture almost shows nothing of the body and keeping the light values around the head, as soon as I saw it i knew I had to make a study of it. Ran the full time on this one to but it was a lot of fun!
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    4)

    Next up, a Bouguereau study. had troubles with geting the placement of the girls figure right, but really checking the negatives and positives helps. Still need a lot of practice to fix that, and get my drawing speed up.. mileage milage!

    A side from the strong contrast in light and dark puthing emphasis on the woman I also noticed the movement from the trees and the line created by the water and gras leading the eyes towards her (err, should have included that in my study). I also feel there is movement in the stone creating a bit of an arrow, pointing at her, maybe I'm just looking to hard.

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    5)

    I choose this next one from Aelbert Cuyp cause i liked how he balanced this painting with the help of the ship in the horizon and the rock down left.
    Things I have never really thought about before the composition video, thumbs up!

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    6)

    Another Schaeffer.

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    7) Sargent, Choose this one to get a picture with some variety in it, both with the girls and the vases.
    I also quite like Sargens style of painting.

    struggling with geting everything in its proper place, but I feel a slow progess witch is good.

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    Hey,Samuel! These studies are looking good value wise,but you seem to have the same problem I do,and by that I'm referring to the over-reliance on soft brushes.You should try some hard brushes for the edges,which will make the figures or shapes pop out more.Also,don't be afraid to spend more than an hour on studies with lots of characters.Block in your shapes first and then focus on making them more three dimensional.Hope this helps until Jason comes in with better advice.Good luck!

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    your progress is already showing. your start on that sarget is rock star. really good. a couple strikes of the lightest light on the two girls who have that and you have this one ready to knock in those faces. great job on your general to specific process. double check the angle of your carpet in that one. you are a little bit more tilted vertically.

    the prior image is a little blurry..perhaps was just less time. working from soft to sharp is a great way to work though. i would encourage you to keep doing that.

    the image with the boats could use a couple of crisper edges but outside that is very close.

    keep up the great work. you are on track.


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    8) Another Sargent, I think I'll have to choose another artist for the next study, can't only draw Sargent!
    lots of movement going in on the both pillar, carpet and clothing, and framing the girl with her clothing to put emphasis on her face.

    Thanks kriss, I will do that, I'm a bit inexperienced with painting, used to just sketch random things, but it seems like solid advice!

    And thanks Jason, I might go back to the picture with the girls and the boat and work some more on those, see what I can get done. I'm trying to keep them to an hour, but maybe some more time wouldn't hurt.

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    9) Bierstadt. Choosen for the varation and repetition he displays in the trees and cliffs.

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    the sargent is super close. beautiful work. the bierstadt simply needs more time. there is work to do on the shapes and edges primarily. really nice start though. keep up the good work.

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    Thank you as always Jason, yeah I probably will need to work on my edges and such!

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    Frazetta, choosen for its movement. The eyes follows the rocks down through the male character, up with the arm stick out, into the flail and with some help of the cape back into hour central figure.
    As a bonus I also choose it cause I think i need alot of practice painting people.

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    yep...it's your edges that you are missing from having this one be absolutely awesome. nice rough in though. keep it up.

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    11) Sargent again

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    I also spent a little more time on the last Frazetta trying to get some sharper edges. As mentioned before I'm a bit of a novice at painting, just used a hard round brush and a similar trying to improve it some

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    big improvement...keep pushing your edges...they can be much sharper like the originals. great job. just push it a little further k?

    keep it up.

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    Ah yes, I will try, I will go back to the Frazetta and maybe also the sargent one and work more on the edges, it was quite fun!

    12) Gustav Dore, choosen for its movement in both the crowd and the mountains and how it creates such strong emphasis on our main subject.
    This is how far i got with the time i had this evening, a little more then an hour. Might have taken on a little more then i can chew.

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    squeezed one in on a busy saturday.

    13) Rembrant

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    these are coming along very well. nice work on your shapes too. keep pushing those values even more accurately and keep an eye open for how you are describing form with values...like on the forehead in the portrait for example..his form is more round and defined.

    keep up the great work.


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    Thanks Jason for the feedback, noted and I will try to remember the pointers. I will try not get sloppy with the values.

    14) spitzweg

    I hadn't seen anything by spitzweg before I started level up, really enjoy his paintings.
    The little sphere with the reflection balances the picture well

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    15) Frazetta, choosen for strong movement, and I enjoy the fantasy theme

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    16) spitzweg, I seem to be running over the hour with most of these still.

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    awesome!!!

    now...if you just use a little more textured brush these things would be very hard to tell apart. great job with your shapes values and edges. super happy to see these.


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    These are looking nice! I especially like the Sargent with the woman in white. The column in the upper left looks dope!
    It's hard to "finish" these in an hour, right? I barely get in my general values, so I don't really have time to go in and sharpen my edges. But here's to getting faster and better! =]

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    Thanks Jason! I am trying to make my own texture brushes with mixed results : )

    Elboy, thanks for the kind words, and I agree, 1 hour is still a little difficult, but I guess it will come with time

    17) Jeff Jones. For better and worse I kept within the hour limit on this one witch I believe shows compared to the previous ones.

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    you will get there with your brushes...just keep experimenting. in the most recent the lower sky is a bit lighter in the original and some of the little tiny marks, like on the ground plane, would hep get it to a more completed look, even if just suggested. for the big shapes though you did a great job. keep it up.


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    18) Had time for another Jeff Jones, probably around 1,5h.

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    awesome work. just a bit more texture in the brush and you would capture the surface quality. there are some light marks in the background in the bottom of the image that are keeping the composition active as well.

    keep it up.


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    Thanks Jason, now that you mentioned it, I can't believe I missed it, seems like such a vital part of the painting!

    19) spitzweg again, I choose this one cause I do like the balance in the picture, and the general theme.
    I also learned that I do prefer drawing people over enviroment, probably took about 2 hours, and I didn't really get into any details of sharpening up the edges, well you see the result yourself

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    at this point you are totally on the right track with shapes values and edges. I would like to see a little more focus to capture the surface texture of the paint as it has such an impact on mood as well as edge qualities. try experimenting with the chalk tools in painter and even making your own paper textures, or make some texture brushes in photoshop.

    keep up the great work.

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