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April 13th, 2014 #31
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Problems from this week:
1. Draftsmanship issues: Symmetry and skewing, drawing straight parallel lines, circles, ellipses
2. Still drawing with a loose envelope aka everyone is wearing baggy clothing, will study more anatomy and try to be more confident with shapes
3. perspective shifting while finishing drawing- sometimes lapse into auto pilot laziness and random legs or hands come out from subconcious. Need to stay focused and aware when finishing.
4. Continue working on pre-visualizing and finishing what I had planned, try to deviate as little as possible
Used google sketchup for the classroom, I think it was helpful in establishing a base to work from.
-Noticed after posting- I botched up glasses kid pretty bad, proportion, alignment, upper and lower body disconnected.I'll need to study some more slumping/seating positions.
Last edited by -CA-Disciple; April 21st, 2014 at 12:21 AM.
April 27th, 2014 #33
Wasn't going to post because of how crap everything is but that's not the point of this sketchbook. I'll stay consistent and keep posting once a week.
I still have a hard time visualizing and planning my next move which is why I struggled so much with this animation. But if I suck at it its probably what I need to be doing so I made a list of things that I want to animate. By the end of it I hope to be seeing images in my head and regain the ability to draw freely.
Also crouching or poses where there is a lot of overlap are hard for me so I will work on that.
1st page was from Skullgirl's Ms. Fortune then a mix of reference and imagination
May 3rd, 2014 #34
May 4th, 2014 #35
For this week, heavy reference and working slower, one imagination page.
The skewing in the symmetrical drawings are still killing me and crunched poses are a lot harder than stretched positions
May 27th, 2014 #36
Your animation is really cool!
Some really nice gestures in your poses.
Since you mention having problem polishing your drawings how about doing some life studies? and taking them as polished as you can, it doesn't have to be just people, they can be studies from objects too.
Or you could try copying a pose from a photograph and making it as rendered as you can.
June 22nd, 2014 #37
Been away for a bit. Even if I stop posting I wont stop drawing.
I am definitely taking your + other's advice and trying to slow down and polish my work.
I tried to do slower studies mixed in these batches even though it doesn't look like it. I will have to work up my capacity for detail and learn to finish one step at a time.
A ton of reference of other artists, and photos this time around.
June 22nd, 2014 #38
June 26th, 2014 #39
Animation study of Norio Matsumoto, one of Naruto's best.
Plus some Dhalsim and Son Son from MvC.
June 26th, 2014 #40
June 30th, 2014 #41
Sorry these animation studies are way too sloppy especially since I have the source material right in front of me. I should be able to replicate the sequences better. Just need to put more care and time into each one next time.
All studies are ref except for the gambit/ ninja gambit(?) poses. I also did some direct copies out of animator Toshi's book. Instead of posting my copies I'm just going to post some scans and promote him instead. His form and structural sense is pretty damn amazing and he has got me thinking about designing the poses rather than just bsing it.
Always wondered if people were able to actually see the figures on the page before they start drawing. I have an incredible hard time with that and can't one shot my ideas.
July 5th, 2014 #42
adding some structure studies in addition to quicker gestures. The colored one was me trying to practice some patience from a cosplay photo. It is not my design, Yang from RWBY? nor did I come up with the pose.
I must be retarded or something but I am still having a difficult time nailing the pose that I want out of my head. For example if I want to draw someone doing a kamehameha from a specific overhead 3/4 angle it doesn't come easy. Sometimes i get confused on shoulder/hip direction, what the legs are doing, which way the hands are facing...
I got frustrated so I resorted to chibi. I have to give it full concentration and turn off all music, slow down, stand up and do it myself, close my eyes and really think for a few moments. I don't know if anyone else has as much difficulty with this as I do and if you know any exercises to help?
Maybe I will just start daydreaming more, start watching images in my head running, swinging swords, throwing punches, or repeating sports highlights. Maybe spend some time just watching and not drawing or pick up a sport/dance that emphasis body/spatial awareness.
One of my favorite deviant artists and storyboard artist for Kora, Xshaunx (i think) mentioned he is/was a gymnastics coach. It would make sense that is why he is able to create such great poses from mind.
July 5th, 2014 #43
You keep saying there's something wrong with your drawings, but I never seen anything but awesome... I'd kill to be at your skill level >.<
"Trying is the first step towards failure." -Homer Simpson
"Sucking at something is the first step towards being sorta good at something." -Jake the Dog
If you fail at something, you suck at it, so trying is therefore the first step towards being sorta good at something!
I have a sketchbook and a deviantArt! FurAffinity and pixiv too if you can find 'em.
July 6th, 2014 #44
July 6th, 2014 #45
Hey Disciple! You've drawn so many lovely figures and gesture drawings, its been great looking through your sketchbook so far The fact that you're looking to animation drives your art to become looser and free.The fire breather in post #39 Wow~the character himself looks pretty well thought through and the poses look very natural.I can only really tell you to keep the passion you have and draw, you have a really good vibe going!
July 11th, 2014 #46
Thanks for the comments guys.
I'll try to express my frustration in more detail.
Right now I'm more concerned about trying to gain a certain ability rather than techniques or creating awesome illustrations. I want to be able to generate convincing poses from mind from any angle but its proving to be extremely difficult. If I know how to do the action myself like shooting a basketball, I feel like I should be able to put it down without having to resort to reference but that is not the case. For design purposes I think it is okay to approach the problem somewhat blind, but what If I want to project an exact idea from my mind onto paper?
The frustrating part is I don't think its a gap in technical knowledge, meaning I can't just study it like anatomy. It is more of a soft skill and I'm not sure how I can improve it.
Im posting some exercises in patience, some from photos and some from thumbnails from previous posts.
July 11th, 2014 #47
Hey, I really like your drawing technique for gestures! Though some people may argue it lacks proper anatomy, I don't think it matters because the movement in your gestures are great. Using Street Fighter as a gesture study is great. (Something I discovered this Summer while playing Campcom vs. SNK in a hot arcade.) Keep it up!
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July 15th, 2014 #48
I have some time now for a couple months, my boss is moving to another country to start a new business. Not really in a financially desperate situation so I figured I might as well take my time and try to improve my skills as quickly as possible.
going to start the 50 figures a day initiative, to hopefully flush out all the crap.
Need to remember I'm not going for the numbers but for the improvement.
July 16th, 2014 #49
set #2, I really need to study hands and feet so I can get away from these mittens and floating feet.
July 17th, 2014 #50
set #3 + hands
July 17th, 2014 #51
Drawing the fingers over lapping the palm can be hard, but it looks like you grasp the concept pretty well.
Out of curiosity, what references do you use when figure drawing?
July 18th, 2014 #52
If you go to this guy's favorite list, he has a bunch of links to various cosplay and stock poses on Deviantart.
This whole effort was inspired by him and his progress from #0 to now except he hammers out 100 of them @ a minute each... If you click on his friends list or look at the side bar for similar artists you will run into a lot of gesture and figure drawing beasts, especially action animators and storyboard artists.
check him out
Other than that I found those 10 minute abs or follow along videos the most helpful since they go through a range of basic motions such as twists, bends, while alternating left and right.
Only half day today and no hands... I also really need to throw in a very slow one to study structure better. I said that 100 times but I still haven't done it, which is a loser mentality.
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July 19th, 2014 #53
set #5 + hands
July 19th, 2014 #54
July 20th, 2014 #55
set #6, no hands today...
July 21st, 2014 #56
hands from life + set #7.
July 22nd, 2014 #57
torso focus + set #8
July 23rd, 2014 #58
July 23rd, 2014 #59
July 23rd, 2014 #60
Man, I'm loving your stuff. Especially the Gurren Lagann stuff.
"The doer alone learneth."