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    Artist is seeking the tight collaboration with Art representative, or Agent.

    Greetings to all!
    Art does not sell itself indeed; you have to sell it. And selling Art involves much more than casually or occasionally sending out random emails, calling people on the phone, inviting them to certain studio or website, or physically going out and showing dealers or gallery owners a portfolio of our work.
    Who i am: aspiring and skilled Illustration Artist with an actual field of expertise:
    - Concept character Art, Illustrations;
    - Comic, cartoons and sequence Art (+screenplay);
    - 3D and animation concepts;
    - environment Art and interior designs.
    - vehicles, planes, spacecraft's, weaponry, armory assets etc.
    Gallery is http://genuks.wordpress.com
    What I am looking for, in this particular discussion:
    Introduction my Art to the specific audience, especially to business specialists, in regards of 'marketability' of each represented Art direction, i.e. examining segments in Comic Book industry, Game design, Book Illustrations and design, Magazines, Animation and Moviemaking business.
    For the next step of future collaboration we could consider the establishing of positive status of my Art among even wider groups of audience. Curating the proficient media activity, represent the Art at professional conventions and summits, etc.
    First of all the activity must be focused on intensively growing Indie market, i.e. contacts with independent Art businesses and initiatives must be the fist concern for future Art representative.
    Either way I do believe this discussion is providing the great ability for starters who are seeking practice in this business.
    What I am offering in return? Let us discuss this matter - it would be the compensation based upon both Contract part and future royalties.

    PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT YOUR POSTS ARE IN REGARD OF THIS VERY TOPIC. OTHERWISE THE OFFTOPIC, UNRELATED OR PERSONAL THINGS WILL BE REPORTED AND MODERATED
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    In my experience, those who don't like my Art falls into two categories, the stupid and the envious. so I do not bother much about both of them

    And... what if one were to say that your art could use a little more polishing of the fundamentals?! Some of it could really benefit from a critique session here on CA. That's what I would consider before looking for an agent or representative.

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    Hello, I write on behalf of the venerable Getty Clue agency. We thank you for your interest in agent's services. We have been established back in 15th century and we always look for hard-working illustrators, competent in fundamentals of art, able to push their work without coddling, and, most importantly, modest and possessing of a critical eye for mistakes in their work.

    Our consultants Monsieur Composition, Mme Structure, Herr Perspective, Mr Lighting and Professor Anatomy are delighted by your generous offer, and are eager to see what you shall be capable of once you get more practice in their respective fields of expertise. They suggest you should study hard, and eventually an agent or art director will surely have something to work with.

    Good luck in your endeavour to increase your skills till they are competitive in the field. May we recommend these books to your attention:

    "Perspective Made Easy" by Norling

    "Visual Literacy" by Wilde

    "Cartoon Animation" by Blair

    "Successful Drawing" by Loomis

    "Figure Drawing for All It's Worth" by Loomis

    "Creative Illustration" by Loomis


    Focus on structural drawing, perspective plot, lighting studies and figure drawing in pencil or charcoal on paper.

    Once you master the principles of composition, perspective, lighting, anatomy, and structural drawing, you can try working in color and doing actual illustration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maidith View Post
    And... what if one were to say that your art could use a little more polishing of the fundamentals?! Some of it could really benefit from a critique session here on CA. That's what I would consider before looking for an agent or representative.
    You see I am not that one who get this fuss started. Actually I personally do tolerate every person with their Art on this earth, thus for me Art is a passion more then demonstration of jealousy

    But if you like to talk about it, then... especially in regards of i've already seen from your works...
    you are definitely not that who can advise a five-year old child with your set of skills... do not mention the real Artist. watch your own inabilities okay, and do not be jealous of non-cliche makers?
    bye bye
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    Quote Originally Posted by arenhaus View Post
    Hello, I write on behalf of the venerable Getty Clue agency. We thank you for your interest in agent's services. We have been established back in 15th century and we always look for hard-working illustrators, competent in fundamentals of art, able to push their work without coddling, and, most importantly, modest and possessing of a critical eye for mistakes in their work.
    Hello,
    Thank you for your hard time you've taken writing to us... Unfortunately must inform that your are heavily deceived.
    You are far, far not the representative of Getty Clue. Indeed in regards of I've already seen from your works and enclosed letter you is just a life-long member of an IGNORAMUS SOCIETY.
    I can recommend you to read in this very regard:
    HOW TO DO NOT BE SUCH A *****;
    HOW TO BEHAVE YOURSELF;
    QUICK GUIDE TO COMMON SENCE (DUMMIES EDITION)
    and finally
    HOW TO read, study and learn

    Please Mr.*******, do yourself a favor, get the **** off my Art ,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maidith View Post
    a little more polishing of the fundamentals?!
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    1. JEALOUS;
    2. STUPID.
    Just pick one option. okay?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bill618 View Post
    You seem well represented, exclusively, by Dunning & Kruger Associates, LLC.
    Now the hardest part, the field psychiatry - represented by Dunning & Kruger Associates, LLC. Well, i am sorry can't much help with it since I never had been bothered much with such a delusional ideas or idée fixe or whatever...
    From my experience the person who is focused much negative at other people's brilliant Works, is just as sick. Indeed we could always find a way to fill our loafing time, if we have it plenty, as seems as yourself
    The hardest parts are the colored spots represented at your gallery, because besides of their absolute tastelessness and a disgusting look, moreover they are all witness for your apparent disorder!
    I only can guess that you is suffering from one of variations of a Dissociative Identity Disorder (Multiple Personality Disorder) which heavily prevents you to find any decent job to make your living, not mention the Artistic commissions...

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    Quote Originally Posted by genuks View Post
    From my experience the person who is focused much negative at other people's brilliant Works,
    In who's opinion is that?

    And please moderate your language, nor should you call members names. This is an official warning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by genuks View Post

    Art does not sell itself indeed; you have to sell it
    If you should find yourself speaking more about said self, rather than the art. You are selling yourself, not the art. If the art is good, it will speak for and sell itself, and you will only have to do a minimal - but still required - level of selling.

    Quote Originally Posted by genuks
    In my experience, those who don't like my Art falls into two categories, the stupid and the envious. so I do not bother much about both of them
    A false simplistic black and white dichotomy to ease an equally simplistic conscience. Disregarding that, your cited line of reasoning does not even apply in your own case. Your work does not warrant jealousy. Your incorrigible stupidity however warrants contempt.

    Quote Originally Posted by genuks View Post
    1. JEALOUS;
    2. STUPID.
    Just pick one option. okay?
    Both those qualities describe you adequately. Your work is extremely sub par, especially in light of your own extreme self-aggrandization. You are not self-confident, you are the definition of arrogance: unwarranted conceited self-worth exceeding your sub par level of skill.

    Your own piece you cited contains numerous errors: The anatomy is atrocious, the composition is chaotic and in tatters. Lighting and form are just vacant: In short, your fundamentals do need brushing up on. Your embarrassing conscious lack of self-awareness in light of Maidith's work being far superior than yours is highlighted by your projection: You are both stupid and jealous. I suggest in the event you start any form of pissing contest, that your work is up to speed, otherwise you end up looking extremely inept not only for starting one, but failing epicly in your own endeavor.



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    (Garbage)
    Please seek professional therapy immediately.
    "Never regret thy fall from grace, O' spirit of Icarian flight, for the greatest tragedy of them all to face, is to never feel the burning bright"
    Believe my lies, for I tell the truth about them. Or would you rather me lie about telling the truth?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maledict View Post
    (Garbage).
    You is a garbage this is only in fact. get the **** off okay? *******
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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Spot View Post
    This is an official warning.
    c'mmon who cares about your warnings? this all thread is just filled with a bile, offenses and generally all posts here are off-topics, so this is me who have to report about them, because actual topic wasn't actually about to hunt moi down with such atrocity and an elan of mere idiocy
    and yeah quotation is mine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by genuks View Post
    You is a garbage this is only in fact. get the **** off okay? *******
    no u



    On the plus side, I've found a member of your subspecies for you to engage in delightful conversation with. I'm sure you will find conversation with this fellow to be both much more fun and productive:

    http://i.imgur.com/DnJKfut.jpg

    Enjoy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maledict View Post
    A false simplistic black and white dichotomy Please seek professional therapy immediately.
    you know the saying: idle hands are the devil's workshop. so do yourself a favor find a something to do in reality?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maledict View Post
    oh finally made myself acquittance with your not-so-pretty muzzle
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    Quote Originally Posted by genuks View Post
    c'mmon who cares about your warnings? this all thread is just filled with a bile, offenses and generally all posts here are off-topics, so this is me who have to report about them, because actual topic wasn't actually about to hunt moi down with such atrocity and an elan of mere idiocy
    and yeah quotation is mine.
    Lurk more, say for 3 months.

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    time to make some coffee dis gon be good! Name:  funny-gif-black-man-chair.gif
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    mods don't close this one yet!!
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    Just had to drop by to say that this is the best thread ever made.

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    Well, he's just called you a "hired moderator" on his private site. Do you feel hired, Black Spot?

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    Robert.B, thanks for making me laugh today

    Booo! Black Spot, reading through this thread was making so many people smile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Spot View Post
    Sorry guys, but I banned him for 3 months.
    What?

    You mean to tell me that we have to wait three months for season 2 of genuks engaging, Darwin Award winning, entertainment?

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    man that was good.

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    If season 1 was anything to go by, it will be worth the wait. In fact I would quite like to see him/her address some of the wider issues facing the human race, with that particular blend of stupidity and ignorance I am sure he would bring peace to all nations.

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    I don't understand why do you guys enjoy mocking people who do not live up to CA standards.

    So what if his art is naif? He'll figure out soon enough he won't be hired in the industry and either be motivated to improve or find his own artistic path.

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    We were not mocking him for his art being not up to some standard, we mocked him for his delusions of being the greatest master in the world and pre-antagonizing everyone by warning in the first message that "In my experience, those who don't like my Art falls into two categories, the stupid and the envious." (He deleted the phrase later.) He responded with vehement insults, and it went downhill from there. In the end he told a moderator "who cares about your warnings" and tried to dictate what was permitted in this thread, and got a temporary ban.

    There is nothing wrong with making bad art if you are working on improving your skill. This guy, however, thinks he is perfect and invites other people to bow before his greatness. Worse, he says that you must like his stuff, or else you are either jealous or stupid. That is never a good attitude to take.

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    Leonor, people need to develop a thick skin about their art. It wasn't that the art wasn't up to scratch, it was more his attitude at being told it wasn't, albeit in a somewhat amusing manner. A new member doesn't come in and tell us that he is doing us a favour that if we find him work, we'll get a commission, which is why I said lurk more. When I joined I read tons before even thinking about making my first post, and I do this on loads of sites.

    I sincerely hope he comes back and has reviewed what he posted, and why he got the reaction he did. There have been members that have started off worse and learnt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arenhaus View Post
    There is nothing wrong with making bad art if you are working on improving your skill.
    I know this is CA's standards and it's taboo to disagree, but I disagree.

    There's nothing wrong with an artist making the art he wants, if he enjoys it, even if he doesn't improve.

    I was stuck for many years trying to fit in in CA and live up to its standards. And sadly I wasn't drawing. I knew all the stuff I should be studying but I wasn't doing it. I didn't enjoy it.

    So instead of beating myself up for who knows how many years more, I decided to go back creating like when I was a teen. And I'm having fun.

    This guy, however, thinks he is perfect and invites other people to bow before his greatness. Worse, he says that you must like his stuff, or else you are either jealous or stupid. That is never a good attitude to take.
    Many modern artists still make millions with that attitude.

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    Modern art is kind of a horse of a different color all-together, the point there tends to be the raw idea and you usually fly solo, so if you have this attitude you are only going to affect yourself. He specifically said his focus was in industries where the standard is insanely high, competition is fierce, and your ability to get work is very much influenced by your ability to play nice and cooperate with other people as you are not the only person working on a project. In light of this, I think the initial responses were pretty mild, honestly.

    But I will steal those reading ideas from arenhaus so it's all good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leonor View Post
    I know this is CA's standards and it's taboo to disagree, but I disagree.

    There's nothing wrong with an artist making the art he wants, if he enjoys it, even if he doesn't improve.

    I was stuck for many years trying to fit in in CA and live up to its standards. And sadly I wasn't drawing. I knew all the stuff I should be studying but I wasn't doing it. I didn't enjoy it.

    So instead of beating myself up for who knows how many years more, I decided to go back creating like when I was a teen. And I'm having fun.



    Many modern artists still make millions with that attitude.
    All well and good but don't come on here with a condescending attitude and ask for help to improve. If you want to do what you want without any input don't ask for it.
    Telling people how to get work in an industry from working industry pro's is a free gift for anyone willing to use it.

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