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February 3rd, 2014 #1
Environment study group - everyone is welcome
Hi there, In this thread I want to welcome everyone interested in learning environments
I will be posting my own environment, both studies and from imagination, everyone is free to do the same.
My idea is that hopefully we will learn this much faster if we study in group so feel free to join and post your landscapes here.
critiques and recommendations are welcome
- say if it was from imagination or from reference
- number your environment whenever you post a new piece here.
- Post only fresh art!
Tips and tutorials
- ryan tutorial is great and simple to follow:
http://geoguessr.com/ perfect for when you dont know what to choose, let geoguessr choose random envis for you
http://www.airpano.com/Photogallery-....php?author=36 to see from above
http://ezdraws.blogspot.com.es/2013/...hop-demos.html PDF of Eytan artwork
The hangout sessions
Sundays at 19:00 (GMT) its officially the hangout time for environment studies (but you can do wathever you want really)
you can share your screen and see other peoples way of doing environments, ask questions or just stay mute, everyone is welcome
its the hangout 3 here on CA https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/e...thuser=0&hl=en
EXERCISE OF THE WEEK
this exercises will help us to explore new methods and force us to study different kinds of environments
I will be editing this section, so the current exercise will be deleted.
4ş EXCERCISE: its very simple, do 2-3 imagination pieces focusing in a feeling/mood you choose, try to go for something you dont do often.
the pieces can be simple and fast, what matters is the mood, search all the reference you need.
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ooh! great idea. all I got right now is the idw im working on. but I'll be back with more. (I hope!)
you've drawn a very pretty sky, buxu. its a bit of a shame the land has remained just a silhouette.
February 4th, 2014 #3
Ashes glad you joined here, welcome! hope to see more from you.
you are still working on it so i guess you will improve it, but here some thoughts,
the water in the middle i thought it was snow, trt ro observe how the water reflects light, the edges are more sharp in the
reflections and more soft in other areas, its too muddy, also it seems its a sunset for the clouds but the light seems like a cloudy day. its always good to get some refs and look at them.
1ş envi - study: envi of the first post, done yesterday (felt like moving it here)
2ş envi - study: This is the environment i did today
trying to see the colors in the sky, noticing in how the building reflect some sunlight in some parts, how the clouds react to the sun etc. gotta keep on. if anyone share some tuts or wathever i will post it above
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February 5th, 2014 #4
Really loving your sunsets (sunrises?). I saw that Ashess said it's a shame that they are silhouetted, but, that is exactly how they would be at that dusk time - Just about. I think you captured the feeling amazingly well.
Maybe some color would be highlighted, like, the colors of the sky onto the tops of buildings, or something? I hope to join in sometime! I feel sooo busy right now, but I will look in here when I can. Love this idea!
Maybe you should do a weekly challenge (kind of how Spartan Camp is set up). What do you think?
February 6th, 2014 #5
February 6th, 2014 #6
Alright, hi guys.
I really like the idea of weekly challenges so I went ahead and got started on this first one. Tougher than it looks, especially getting the subtle warms on the horizon line without brush transparency. I saved some steps as well but unfortunately I saved over the most relevant one (with the basic color shapes).
I'm looking forward to what you guys post for the challenge and otherwise and I'll try to offer crits when you do.
So yeah, environment no.1
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February 7th, 2014 #7
hehe nice, like to see you joining jondawo.
its hard isnt it? forces you to think in every color your putting, i find this method great for learning.
I really like your environment, my only critiques are, give more love to your shapes (im sloppy too), and those blues in the rocks, arent they a bit too saturated? kind of alien thing happening there or its just me?
uiriamo: you should join us, its fun!
adrienne rose: thx to you now we have a weekly activitie thx for the feedback and join us whnever you want, i would live to see your envis
and your right there was some highlights i skipped :/
well this is my entry nş 3
took way more time then what i was thinking, and way more dificult then what it seems, its my first from life! its winter here and the light was changing so fast, its completly different from life cause in a photo the color are already in you pc but in reaal life you have whithes way more brighter then what you pc can give you, so its another world, i recommend it to everyone, super challenging and interesting.
nş4 imagination small practice
nş5 study photo
nş6 study photo
February 7th, 2014 #8
Damn, Buxu, do u make any breaks from painting? You're posting new stuff so fast !
But okay, it's even better, more motivation for me then :p
Great studies btw. from life of course is way more difficult, have to try one too and from imagination... too :d
Mkaay, so I'm joining !
Just for start, most recent ones:
(I was told not to use transfer, it's better !)
and 4. with Ryan's method, 3 steps. I don't know if I got it right cause actually I think I was painting like this before
All of them are from references ;P
"If you can dream it, you can do it" - Walt Disney
I believe I can !
My sketchbook -> http://www.conceptart.org/forums/sho...d.php?t=273512
Deviant art: http://igson93.deviantart.com/
February 7th, 2014 #9
Buxu: Hey, nice work man. I think you did well with the plein air one as far as colors and value range is concerned but I think you're using a little too much black or near black in your imagination pieceNo.4. The photo studies are looking better. Keep it up
Igson:Hey man. Good work reproducing the colors in your studies. I think the grainy brush is messing with your shapes though. It adds a lot of noise to everything and is kind of distracting in places. I think no.1 is the main offender in this case. Maybe consider switching to a cleaner brush as long as you're not using transfer? Also, when you're lassoing out shapes like in the later paintings, don't be afraid to simplify them even further. Leave out all the wiggly bits except in places where you feel they're really necessary. no.2 loses some of it's readability because of this. no.3 is heading more towards the right direction
I tried to focus on shapes and keeping my values separated, especially in no.2. no.3 was a bit of a mess. I feel like I got an ok mood going on but the edges really need work.
No.2 From a photo
No.3 From Imagination
February 8th, 2014 #10
nice guys lets keep this rolling
Igson! good to see you here!
i love your color choises in the first one, as for critiques it seems like you have a nice eye for color but i think it would be a good idea to try to make the shapes of colors a bit more smooth, you know? more simple. look here http://androidarts.com/art_tut.htm go to the part that says Flatten and simplify, try to give it a shot to the simplification thing next time you make an envi will you? i think it would benefit your evis alot.
And I do take breakes from painitng, actually too often
Jondawo haha your starting to get addicted to envis too? i love the strokes on nş2 but the strokes dont work so well on the water and the clouds, you rushed i guess. on nş 3 i agreed it does have a nice mood, i think a secondary light would add alot, like a character with a warm lamp or something, kinda lacking a focal point i think, just ideas anyway, keep them coming
you are right in my imagination piece, i will work on my values.
did you guys saw yong sub noh? my studies of today are from his pieces, he will make you guys cry
I suck at values so i tried to understand value differences in environments, i realize there must be a clear definition between foreground and background for this thing to work... its obvious but took me a while.
IMAGINATION kinda of rushed, wanted to test a bit the values and composistion knowledge.
February 8th, 2014 #11
Hey Buxu, thanks for the pointers about my work. I'll try to apply it in later pieces. Yeah I kinda rushed both of those pieces so I'm going to try and spend more time on my work in the future. I have seen Yong's work before. I really like his surrealistic style. Huge floating objects and things like that. Some of my favourite environment artists are Jaime Jones, Whit Brachna and Eytan Zayna. I'll be doing some studies of their work soon I think
As for your Yong studies, I think they're good but you could really tighten the edges in places. Maybe even lasso them. That floating cube should be hard!
Man, the struggle was REAL with this study. I tried to start with Ryan Lang's method, except WITH transfer enabled. The problem I had was with the huge variety of colours in the reference photo. I found myself having to straight guess a lot of them instead of relating them to the surrounding colours. I couldn't really work out what color the rocks were supposed to be and things like that. Ho whell. Gotta practice more I guess.
No.4 From a photo
and some steps
February 8th, 2014 #12
OH man, I really enjoyed doing this!
Not sure if I will get another one in by the deadline or not. The 100 Day Anatomy Challenge is eating so much of my time. The save for web kind of changed the colors of my painting. Ah well. It still looks pretty great.
Here we go.
Painting and reference photo (my own).
February 9th, 2014 #13
oh jon dude thx for pointing me out that, tried to apply to my studies today. really like those master, only knew jaime, i loved eytan the most, maybe i will do some studies of his rocks.
that study you did seems hard, pass me the ref will ya? what i do when the stuff is too complicated i zoom out the photo or squint alot and always asking about temprature, i forget about color, i like to play with rgb slider and hsb slider, move them slightly to more cold or warm colors to see if im right, also take breaks man, rally help me.
Adrienne: you really joinned great to see your first entry, i would say the colors are all more saturated? its strange, they seem to relate well to each other but too saturated, maybe its the web thing, also i think your work would imporve if you simplify more, think on big shapes of color, you made me remember i have some shots too, gotta see them
today was very hard because of the imagination piece, felt so STUCKED i mean, this is hard, i cant really do details at all. i think i need to do some serious studies with detail in the future or i will never get this right, hopefully studies will help...
anyway ppl, someone recomends me a good web for refs? im having troubles finding good refs.
nş13 imagination awfff
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