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    Spartan Camp #290 - 50 gestures + optional "Age difference" Study

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    Deadline: Sunday the 12th of January.

    In addition to this, participants can choose to do an Optional "Age difference" Study, in any medium.

    Background
    Happy new year everyone! This weeks optional topic is somewhat inspired by new year's eve. Usually when we do gesture drawings, we pay very little attention to the age differentiation. However figures and gestures may differ quite a bit depending on age. And for that matter, so do the proportions. We will focus on this variation in this optional study.

    Exercise
    Draw figures of varying age, or add gestures of various ages to your batch of weekly 50 gestures. It is interesting to do several figures, after all we are focusing on the differences.

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    Reference is advised. You could simply sift through some reference images and pick figures at different ages. Some of the gesture drawing tools also display quite a bit of variation in this regard. Alternatively drawing outside, or the typical 'cafeteria' drawing can also be useful as you are likely to encounter people from different ages.

    If anyone has access to more reference, feel free to contribute!

    Blog post - Several resources are listed here, also focused on proportions.


    Come on soldiers! Flex those muscles!!

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    Woot! I did my first 30 earlier today. I posted it on my sketchbook too.

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    CA (and new year's eve alcohol) are giving me some issues, but I will be editing this thread! I'm not planning to start this year with a bad round!

    Happy new year!


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    I got 20 more 60 sec gestures done today. I'll post them up later. Kinda don't have time to today.

    Also! Your Spartan FAQ link is broken.

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    all work and no play...
    ref, 2uik sketches from life
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    no ref. tried do keep it clean. a lil outta practice somehow.
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    45m from ref, directional study.
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    Gestures! They got better as I worked that's as much as you can really ask for. 60 seconds each.

    -Edit, the attachment order seems to upside down oops.

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    Quickie 60sec poses for the new year.

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    stuff :p

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    More gestures. This time only 13. I tried to do more outline than line of motion this time. I have a long way to go, but practice makes perfect.

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    Happy New Year people! Keep up the good work...

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    A new set of 13. I took dierat's suggestion and did a combination of the motion lines and the outline. Towards the end it started to look much better. I think I'll stick with this for a while and see how I develop.

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    quick gestures from imagination

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    Yoyo! Back from the Xmas. Here's for this week. Sadly no bonus :<

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    @nyghtrain is it possible to boost the contrast on those scans? flexing art muscles for the new year!


    gestures (120 sec) in 30 min session:

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    figure study:

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    reference :
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    happy new year people!
    note/ resolution to self 'make more time to upload work to spartan camp!
    everyone's sketches look great so far. acient drake - interesting presentation with the boxes. roughly how big are your sketches before you combine hem together...A4? A5?

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    Happy New Year!
    @biro: Heya, thank you, I just wanted to have a bit of order in my sketches ^_^. Each box goes full screen vertically, so about 1/2 of my screen which is 24" at 1920x1200. One 'page' is 7x3 boxes at about 5000 pixels wide. Hope that helps ^_^

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    Hyperionsword - I adjusted the levels on the images. I hope that helps! 7 poses done yesterday 60 secs.

    Edit! I'm adding the ones I did today. The first 14 are 60 secs and the other 7 are 2 min/120 sec. All done in pen.

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    Happy New year everyone, getting back into this.

    Various length studies.

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    Here are really atrocious looking gesture drawings. I need to do a better approach to gesture drawing. I keep forgetting that I don't always need to use the 30-60 sec. timers. >_>; So, I'll do better next time around after I get some more practice under my belt. I actually made it this time and wasn't late, YAAYY!!

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    Happy new year btw everyone! Looking great so far!

    Animals! No scanner here so had to photo them using my phone lol!

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    @monkabit- do it like animare showed. cant go wrong following him!

    @all- sorry guys, no stuff. too busy with the female char workshop! will put it in the old thread with the optional when im done... but im close!
    just slightly obsessed with it!

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    Some crits to open up the new year!

    nyghtrain; Yeah, I think that's the right attitude. There's no easy way really. That being said, good studies! I think in general its a good idea to try different approaches, which I also see you doing. I especially like the figures with those 'form circles' around them, in post #17. Careful with selective studying though - don't skip out on hard parts such as feet, hands, and heads!

    ashess; Nice no-ref figures there! Good to see a bit of exploration. Many of your figures are very light. I was wondering if that's from the scanning/photograph settings, or if you're using hard pencils, or just drawing really sketchy? Because I frequently have to remind myself to draw more clear, confident lines. Which is pretty helpful for me. Just like the occasional pen drawing.

    Azimuth; Hah, I recognize that! Warmup can take a while.. It's very noticeable that your images are in reverse order. Especially the last ones have good, strong lines. It's interesting how they're better both in overall gesture as well as proportions and the smaller details. You ought to follow up with a few more refined ones to see they also get better! Put the new knowledge to use.

    Animare; Pretty organic gestures! I like those a great deal. Like the bottom left figure in the first image. A lot of suggested form and you can understand what's happening. Like how the shoulder blade sticks out to the side. I'm not sure here, but I often feel the "+"-heads are somewhat of an easy escape. Always very happy to see some animals though!

    - nat -; Very light and slender gestures. Unfortunately mine often end up on the heavy side. I really enjoy the small studies, like those of the hand and the foot. Both are never easy when foreshortened, so nice job studying those. For me its usually helpful to realize that the inside 'bump' of the ankle is higher up than the outside one.

    ancientdrake ; That's a pretty solid start this year! Aren't you seeing lots of repeated images by now? Unless of course you are using several gesture drawing tools. Or unless some of these are from imagination. Which, I'm sure I've mentioned it before, I would always support . I like images ~27,29, about halfway through, the two men swinging weapons. They're slightly longer studies and I think they turned out really well. You added detail, but didn't lose the gesture. Nice!

    HyperionSword; Welcome! Good work, I like the bold, strong lines. Never easy but a helpful exercise. Nice to list the reference image for that study as well. Good image with a lot of smooth value shifts. Are you planning to continue this figure study? In general you did a pretty good job so far, though the angle of the head is slightly off. A very tough angle, admittedly.

    fireblade; Nice work! Always a joy to look at. In a couple of those figures (especially the two value ones) you're using a very interesting brush that's helping a lot with the form. Nice find, I might play around with that myself. Did you just experiment or found it elsewhere?

    Monkabit; Nice job using the timer though. It's a good exercise. Personally I like to use it as a warmup and follow up with different studies, they don't seem so useful in isolation. I like how varied yours are though. Both in subject matter and in difficulty. Lots of foreshortening as well. Good to stay fresh and not get caught up in a comfort zone!


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    caution: gesture drawing gives you a slight "edge" (keen senses?) which then drops and you feel tired? it's a good sleeping tatic
    Anthis thank you for the crit! i'll introduce myself properly after some sleeps
    nyghtrain the new scans helps and the pen gestures are a great idea!

    let's flex some gestures out!
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    Hey everybody!

    @Anthis- I'll keep trying. Also, yes the comfort zone is a nasty little bugger; trying to get rid of it at times is easier said than done, especially when I first start something new.

    @ashess- Thanks for the tip, I'll follow through and try to incorporate the way animare does it into my gestures. They look so nice, as well as his/her sketchbook *__*;

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    @Anthis: Thank you! Yeah, I've encountered that on countless occasions, some poses I find boring/too repeated but then there are some I like to return to, it does get frustrating sometimes though ><. Using several, quickposes, pixelovely's tool and posemaniacs plus sometimes some random image I find off of the net. Very some are from imagination but some are with maybe a couple of second glance and then working from what I remember, dunno if that count's ><(usually because I couldn't make the timer and was catching up ) I'm glad about the more detailed gesture! That's one of the goals ^_^.

    And this week, even did a bit of the optional ranging from 10seconds to a few minute ones.

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    Thank you Anthis! I agree, the ankle bump is somewhat off in that sketch...I feel the foot generally is a hit or miss when drawing


    more imagination studies... The chin should be rounder in profile....

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    @ anthis- yeah ,it was either 2h or 4h.. picked it up and didnt look for a better one, figuring it was a good excuse to work clean. that didnt work out. those hard pencils feel like knives scratching on a school board to me.

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    anthis - Thank you so much for the feedback! I feel I have a long road ahead of me, but I'm going to keep trying. Someone else pointed out that I should be doing the hands and feet too. I don't think I even realized I was purposedly skipping them until it was pointed out. So I actually plan to do some hands and feet gesture studies to make up for it. I'll include heads too. Then I'll do some longer studies to do the entire body with all parts intact. Thank you so much for taking the time to give me feedback.

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