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March 24th, 2014 #301
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i'm gonna crit unreffed profile girl:
- the light area under her eye is flat, there should be a slight variation of value cor that area isn't a plane. (same to other smaller area) (unless you're doing a plane study)
-also some area should be pushed more (small areas) example the botton of the chin, it should be darker than than side.
i made a quick paintover so you see
pou unreffed girl.jpg
March 26th, 2014 #303
Hey Pou! I really like how your value studies are getting better and better. The study of that girls back is just gorgeous!
Your pencil stuff is also pretty nice. I don't see as much improvement there, but It's just stuff that needs a lot of grinding - and that's what you do!
So just keep it coming and I'll keep on lurking in here
March 27th, 2014 #304
Buxu: Thank you, yes I haven't done anything long in awhile so I'll do some!
Actually I've decided to pay more attention... I don't want to become a "B" student afterall lmao
Zou: Thanks so much for the paintover Ill keep in mind.
Ecki: Yeah haha XD. Thank you, still trying to improve the pencil rendering as well
I had just realized I might have an artblock which came into existence shortly after the start of the SB ( when I began to try seriously for improvement ). But then last night, just like that it was over.
I have become so obsessed with improvement and chosen to focus on that. But in result anything I did from imagination was frustrating for me and became overwhelming
BUT the cure to that artblock is drawing things you like! ( not taking a break, at least for my case ) Haha man I am so slow always late to realize the most basic things. Anyways Iíll be focusing on this for now and I think Iíll be more successful, not to mention much happier.
( Oh also ecki gave me nice advice earlier this morning. He's awesome :3 )
Sorry if these long paragraphs bother viewers, but this is my journey and taking note of these things to look back upon in the future will be amazing to see how I felt at certain times, while ultimately seeing what helped me get through the struggle. As undoubtedly I will face these same feelings again sometime in the future.
Onto art now
For some reason I couldn't upload yesterday. soima day late
All outta order. I don't know
bought an acrylics kit and tried it for the first time. Yow
Edit: forgot to upload this stuff below
( study, imagination )
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March 28th, 2014 #305
huhu! ¶D dont worry to much about artblock, they sometimes appear but with time you figure out why they come and how to "survive" i would really recommend to write down some stuff while drawing, you dont have to show it, just for you. like what are you doing exactly, what are you doing wrong, what looks wrong and why... analyze your stuff and compare to studies from pro's. or real photos. really the or one of the fastest ways to improve, have fun
http://www.conceptart.org/forums/sho...d.php?t=271143 <- Sketchbook >¶¨D
March 28th, 2014 #306
thats why i told you to relax and have fun but you dont listen.
just find a bit of time for yourself during the day sketch what you like,
dont need to worry about anatomy or wathever, i am sure that will open your brain,
and the more happier you are the more receptive your briain will be for new knowledge,
and also sorround yourself everyday by stuff you like, go see SB you like, anyhting that boost you,
i personally came here cause i want you to kick my butt and you do
March 28th, 2014 #307Registered User
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Wow. Such awesome, so jellyfish, many liek. Me doge.
Damn I want to try out acrylics too ^^. Those look sweet!
Second what Yuniken said about taking notes, and have you watched other artists paint? A ton of artist sell videos of them painting and talking and I find that I've learned a whole bunch of stuff simply by watching them and listening in real time.
Is the last pencil one a life drawing? Dat pencil work , me want!
"A man chooses. A slave obeys."
March 29th, 2014 #308
Yuni: Thanks man! Haha itís the reason I was so depressed was I could see my lack of skill in comparison to them and even though I practiced I felt I couldnít grasp the concept ( although Iíve gotten it now ) xD Thank you, I just need to concentrate on enjoying art more to get through all of it. Iíll definitely write down what I want to get out of individual studies etc more though.
Buxu: bahaha yeeash buxu is the wise one ;; _ ; Thank you Iíll try to keep it in mind
Mrkolsyrad: Not too oftenÖI fall asleep or watching videos by themselves takes much time up out of my little day. I canít really listen to videos while drawing itís too distracting. But Iím trying to work on that. Yes itís from life! Charcoal pencil thank you
Where do all my pencil pages go? I swear I had more or somethingÖ Iím so messy
Did some bug studies. Urk theyre so gross upclose but so interesting. What am I doing to myself.
Tried to think of a concept... I'm really happy with this so far ; _ :
AND I'M HAVING FUN
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March 29th, 2014 #309
Hey Pou! I cant really find much to critique here, your on the right track, and I really admire how determined you've been, especially in posting everyday, its a pleasure to check back in. But enough being nice, Ill try a critique.
Your lines are messy, Which is great, it gives the sense that the portrayal is a struggle and of course opposing forces create energy. I see alot of movement and good things happening with your lines but I also see in some of your sketches the line is very hesitant and blurry, perhaps when your not quite sure what to do with it you lay down some lines which aren't quite doing anything, but are just sitting there on the drawing. Try to keep in mind what your trying to do with each stroke of paint or pencil, what movement is it promoting what shape is it ultimately apart of as a whole and how do the two relate. I'm mostly talking about your quick sketches-but I see a bit of this in everything.
I like to think of things like this- "here is the object im trying to draw, but I'm not going to draw it, im going create lines to tell me about it, describing it to me as if they were describing it to a blind man, as few as possible are just in the background talking to one another about some unrelated thing. Id recommend you try doing some contour drawing by pen, practice drawing figures from reference without lifting the pen from paper, don't worry about proportion or accuracy so much as movement and line weight. This is really just a study of line confidence, Go over places you need to pronounce with more line and make it darker. Also in your sketches try darkening things which are coming in front of other things, exaggerate the darkness even, concentrate it. In the end everyone is different and learns differently so take that with a grain of salt, try it, see if there is anything which seems to gain you something if not throw it out.
Another thing, in your paintings I recommend you stay clear of the smudge and blur tool for awhile, or regulate your use of it, try painting with a brush with more of a lost edge, like a sponge brush where it breaks up around the edges, so you don't get the spotty outline of the edge of each little circle on the round brush, and use that instead. The smudge tool does great effect, but its easy to get into the habit of fudging the edges rather then really holding up the integrity and choice between soft and hard. It can just get too muddy when over used, and painting more without it will help learn when its most useful and why.
Keep it up pou, its very inspiring.
March 30th, 2014 #310
yeaaaaashhhh now i feel im seeing the true pou in action, its cool stuff dude with tasty designs keep up this
ok now as for critiques i wanna try to be short, i like what your doing in the red rib cage and insect legs, isolating parts for your brain to digest the info but i see stuff i dont like in your studies too, linear work with no 3d sense, always study this shit in 3d dude. in your head i mean.
well dont need to be so linear but you get my point right?
March 30th, 2014 #311
Rakno: I havenít been posting everyday ; _ ; itís every other day. (Except for today..lol ) Thanks Rakno!!!! Iíll try to use the smudger less I donít want to become a slave to my tools. And Iíll try to work on my sketchwork as well. Thanks again for the detailed advice
Buxu: you hit it dead on buddy Iíve been avoiding this D: Okay Iíll study perspective more in depth and then try to do that. I have yet to do it because itís scary!!!!!!!! BUT I gave you the advice to just do the thing that will help you the mostÖ and I think this is it for me. Oh man
-Iím a day early for posting ( Iíve been trying to post every other day ) but because I couldnít upload the other day Iím a day off now. So posting today to get back on track
-I fixed my tablet with help from toffee so now I can get the creamy strokes much easier from now on! I thought I fixed the problem by myself a while ago but I actually just made the situation worse T__T
ďfinishedĒ imagination piece. I need to learn how to do backgrounds and just everything better.
It was fun in the beginning and learned a good economical process for future works.
Though of course this could be pushed so much more. I don't know how right now... gotta do some longer refine studies
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I was planning on making this a longer study but I started off with no lines and everything is terrible( strokes, proportions. I tried the process almost backwards for experimentation lol ).
It isnít worth it to fix this one timewise, so Iíll leave it
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Iíma do one of these from life each day. yumyum
March 31st, 2014 #312
check out my : SKETCHBOOK: All critiques much needed and WELCOMED!
March 31st, 2014 #313
Hi Pou, inspiring stuff, as always. These last onion paintings look super fresh and exciting. Love the strokes and the color complexity you've managed with them. The bug woman is looking great as well. It cracks me up. The branch she is standing on looks a little "cut and paste", like it doesn't meld successfully with the background. It's looking a little flat. I know you probably want it to pop out in space, but I'm thinking maybe some of the edges are a tad too crisp and the lighting could subtly describe the form better? Not sure how to fix it, exactly. Do you see what I mean?
March 31st, 2014 #314
the blue girl study is awesome ! the oiginon too.
i think it's worth it to continue even if you spend much time on it.
you need to do quick exercices and longer exercices, and sometimes veryyyy long.
i hope you'll get motivation and inspiration to keep up the good work
March 31st, 2014 #315
hey pou onions are not yum, they taste horrible but nice still lifes, reminds their very usefull, gotta do some too.
to me happens the same in my pieces, i cant finish them cauze i dont make long studies either, actually i think its pretty hard, good luck there, if you learn that then you can teach me oh the girl seems like a good skin color studie
March 31st, 2014 #316
April 1st, 2014 #317
Hey Pou! Those onions are really nice! I love onions!
I need to second Buxu in post #310, you could do some of those "Feng Zhu"-ish constructions when it comes to animals. This stuff is really boss!
Your hand-anatomy also needs some work, maybe you could go for a 100-hand-challenge? - just use your left hand for posing and do any kind of poses you can think of. I should do that too
Your sense of value and form is getting better with each post - that's really nice to see! I wonder what would happen if you'd pour ~20 hours into one big-ass painting?
April 2nd, 2014 #318
April 3rd, 2014 #319
Grumpysaur: Pfffuffff yeah itís so flat. I see what you mean! Iíll try to improve that thank you
Zou: Iíll do some longer studies, thank you buddy
Buxu: >:C onions are the best. Yeah of course whatever you need, if I can help you with it!
Purb: Thank youuuuu my cheerleader XD
Ecki: Okay yes T___T longer stuff. AHHHHH 20 hrs??? INSANEEEEE. Someday someday bahha, Iíll try a 100 challenge againÖ I usually cop out at like 50 since my brain doesnít absorb any new information after that. Iíll try to learn how to do some perspective constructions as well. Thank yuuu ecki
Randis: Thank you I appreciate your kind words
Groooooarrrr schools crazy right now!!! Very busy.
Posting every other day isnít working out I keep losing the stuff I do.
Guess I need to go back to daily uploads :I
dem onions, ill try a different object
Attempting a new technique with acrylics, monochrome and then you glaze it
imagination sketch, a creature similar to growth process of tadpole, but crablike features
started using a traditional pencil instead of mech pencil towards the end
April 4th, 2014 #320
April 4th, 2014 #321
Thanks zou! I'll be sure to do so
Sooomeee stuffs. finally the weekend is here (almost)
tried white conte for blending and it's awesomeeeee!!
it looks almost like oils. The arms a bit flat I know
masterstudy zumbachs. I'll work on it for awhile
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last onion as it must be eaten now (30min)
April 4th, 2014 #322Registered User
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Hey Pou! Thanks for checking out my sketch book a few days back! Man you got some real sweet stuff here! I like your insect studies especially the prey mantis awesome! The onions are cool too, eh... so are the figure drawings now that I think about it... gee man just great work man! great work!
my sketchbook http://www.conceptart.org/forums/sho...d.php?t=272981
April 4th, 2014 #323
Hey Pou! I just wanted to stop by and say that I like your updates
Your onions are really awesome. Makes me want to paint some too! How many more onions are you going to paint?
I love the quick poses from the heavy lady from post #319 - the forms and linework are just awesome.
yay, keep up the great work!
April 4th, 2014 #324
Great studies you've been doing recently, Pou. The onions are full and round; great form and the brushstrokes aren't too tight.
Have you tried using retarder with acrylics? I'm not sure if it'll help your process but it helps keep the paint wet while you work
with it on the canvas/paper.
April 5th, 2014 #325
You're good at colours but not that good at concept. I'd suggest you develop abstractions.
April 5th, 2014 #326
Toshi: Awwww thank you and no problem
Ecki: Thanks I really enjoyed those gestures as well! And that was the last one. I ate the onion
Toffee: This is weird I literally just got my retardant in the mail yesterdayÖ I havenít used it before but im excited because I want longer drying time but Iím scared of oils haha. ( What with how they can kill you and stuff. ) How long does the retardant usually keep acrylics wet for in comparison to regular medium? I need to use my other cheap medium up before I can touch this beautiful one ): I suppose I could just look this up bleh. Thanks for stopping by as well!
Ped: I am bad at concepts and itís something I definitely need to improve on D:. What do you mean by ďdevelop abstractionsĒ, do you mean ideas and stuff? Do you have anything you could suggest. Thanks for the compliment! You should link your SB in your siggy or profile it was difficult to find, but you should revive it!
I talk too much sometimes, so Iíll just say Iím glad itís the weekend and that I got 3 hrs of sleep last night lol.
WIP of a skeleton chart Iím making for myself
Basic perspectiveÖgonna delve into the more complex now that Iíve caught up on all the fun. Ohohoho
( no itís not going to be actually fun )
what a cutie.
April 5th, 2014 #327
Great cockroach - if you want to have a long open period, oils are a must. They are much easier to use than oils and you won't die from them. If you have health worries; use Gamsol (it's an American non-solvent for oil paints by Gamlin I think - I've never used it) and stay away from Flake white (lead based). The retarder keeps the acrylics wet for a while but it makes them a little tougher to control - they dry overnight I think. I don't use acrylics very often, so I can't be too sure. I much prefer oils.
Great studies in your recent post, too.
April 5th, 2014 #328
Yay, you are getting into perspective! Can't wait to see what it opens up for you.
pdfhak! Cockaroach! Bleck.
Yeah, I stopped using oils when I got pregnant, they scare me too. They are dreamy to work with, though. Have you used gouache? I see all these beautiful concept art using them. Maybe it's something to look into. I'm sure that you will eventually rock those acrylics if you play with them a bunch.
April 5th, 2014 #329
April 8th, 2014 #330
uh so much stuff since last time, there are some really great posts, in the last post i see you beaing more tight and clean on the edges, i think thats great cauze you was missing that, keep pushing structure! my favourithe images is the bug from imagination, it shows thinking and realist design sense which is something i find hard to do and the dog from ima cauze its have mood! (poor dog, seem sad)
so yeah nothing to critique, your experimenting and doing many different stuff so keep doing it. ah wait i do have a critique but its something you already realized
im seeing too much basic perspective, i think you are more then ready to go for the next step, do envi studies following those grids, exteriors or interiors, you will get much more from that i think. hehe hope you keep the fun on!
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