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    OOoo life drawings from casts, bet you will learn a shit load doing them. Like the little ink car and ufo, has lot's of character, reminds me of my first ET probing Ever tried bleach on ink? makes for some really cool effects but is somehwat destructive. Was wondering Mike, what interests you about muscular fighting females? You a martial arts man yourself?


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    Oh yeah, I definitely believe the cast drawing is the best thing I've ever done, and you're right, I'm learning so much from it. I'm starting to understand why everybody pushes drawing from life now. Hah - it does look like a ufo, doesn't it? Really I was just making marks of different kinds - that was a wash that I then scrubbed over before it was fully dry to see what it would do. Looking for some atmospheric, rough effects. I thought it looked like the roof of a Pizza Hut, and later I laughed when I also realized it looks like a ufo.

    Me doing martial arts is a funny thought actually. I did take judo briefly when I was like 18, but it didn't stick. No, I discovered the world of women's MMA recently when I was starting to do illustration art and was considering how I wanted to represent females. Didn't want to do the Frazetta thing, with doll faces and T&A sticking out everywhere, and it struck me one day to do an image search for tough chicks and tomboys. I found a picture of a woman named Chris Cyborg that I painted and later decided I wanted to add her tattoos but needed better reference for it. In fact at that point I didn't even know her name or who she was at all, but some research led me into the whole world of women's' MMA and I was fascinated.

    More recently, since starting the Bridgman studies, I discovered that it's recommended to study natural athletes or female bodybuilders so you can clearly see the musculature without it being steroid-buffed freaks. That's along the lines of what I was thinking when I did the female MMA paintings - it was a way to consolidate my theoretical understanding of anatomy (all from Hogarth and Hale) but I instinctively stayed away from the puffed-up male steroid freaks. Funny thing - Cyborg was heavily on the roids at that time, but it works differently on the female anatomy than the male - it increases definition without totally distorting mass. And most of the male MMA fighters also have great definition without steroid distortion. They're all natural athletes and great for studying anatomy.
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    Interesting thought process, agree with the T&A hanging out all over the place, not how I wish to represent females either. The book 'strength training anatomy' has some pretty good illustrations for study (mostly males), might wanna check it out.

    I really like your little stop motion puppet btw!

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    Here you can see my solution to the 'transfer paper' problem I was having. I folded over a cheap piece of copier paper, trimmed it to fit, and place it under the left page when I'm drawing (the one that has older drawings on the back and opposite it). That way it intercepts the transfers (on both sides) and I can erase it and re-use the same piece over and over. And I always Spectrafix each page. That's some good stuff, yo!

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    Still a long way from even trying to do real ink drawing, just some more loose doodling. I know it's necessary to plan ink drawings much more tightly - it's not like pencil or charcoal where you can think as you draw. At least not yet - maybe after doing it for years you get good enough.
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    Been a while since I last visited your sketchbook, glad to see how well your skills are improving!
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    Thanks Helila!

    Only some more Bridgeman and ink doodlins today:

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    Bridgeman b4 breakfast

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    Well, one spread was before breakfast, was going to do both but I decided to put another coat of fixative on every page in the book, so while that was drying I hit up Taco Bell..

    These are from late last night - materials tests plus a hand cast drawing:
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    Hand casts

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    Lol, it really blows my mind that this foam hand I bought on eBay is in a total Bridgman pose! Too perfect..

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    Bridgman hardly prepared me for drawing graceful female handses though..
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    From last night

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    I really like your bridgeman hand studies, Ive skipped that part to do legs but ill be at it soon!

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    Thanks - yeah, Bridgeman is the man for sure!! I think I saw your SB the other day. I'll check it out.
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    Man, I love the lines you're getting in these studies with the lead holder. And ink! Love that last torso especially.

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    Thanks doubleV! You know you're drawing fine ink lines when for the first time you actually have to put on the reading glasses to draw! Literally…

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    Good work over here , i like your drawing style and the way you draw dynamic hands. I have to study this too. Only focusing on values now, and i saw you painted one recently, it's really cool & well done ( man the drapery is insane, very hard to paint for me, yours is very similar, congrats !) Keep up the good work. Cheers
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    Thanks!! As for dynamic line quality, that's mostly Bridgeman's - I'm copying his book Constructive Anatomy. Starting to get really tired of drawing hands - I see them spinning in my head when I lay down to sleep now lol!! A couple more pages of them to go (his pages, which translates to 5 or 10 of my pages I think) and then I graduate to the arm. But I'm about a quarter of the way through the book now, so I guess he put a lot of emphasis on hands, probably because of their complexity.

    Are you doing the Level Up Composition 1.1 course, the freebie? That's what my value studies are for, and it's teaching me so much!! You ought to do it if you aren't already.
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    Love the lines you're getting with these inks. (Huge fan of lines and the word 'love' here, apparently.) Are you using a nib? Ahh, nibs. And what's your fave ink so far? I somehow missed the pots earlier -- those are great!

    The trick of sticking paper between your pages -- how have I never thought of that? It didn't even occur to me to use fixative on the sketchbook. Instead, I recently decided I'd just use less pencil. *facepalm* Clearly the only way to prevent smearing. Thanks for that tip!

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    Hah! The reason I thought to use fixative in a sketchbook is because I had just got my 1st bottle of Spectrafix (won't be the last) and it's amazing!! I've never had any luck with fixative before, it always darkens things too much or goes on spotty. But Spectrafix is the shizz!! Now I want to spray it on everything lol!!

    Yeah, I'm using Speedball and Hunt nibs, and my ink of choice right now is Noodler's Bulletproof. I had just got PH Martin's Hicarb Black Star because it's extremely black - blackest ink made I believe. I had read that it's the only ink Jason Shawn Alexander uses, and I dig the hell out of his work, so I had to try it. Yeah, it sure is black, but it's also thick and gummy - sticks tenaciously to everything like napalm! I call it PH Martin's Black Tar lol! It's ok on dip pens, but hard as hell to clean off, but don't dip a brush in it if you want to ever use it again.

    You know, something you said recently has struck a nerve - I mean, not in a bad way, but it made me realize something. I've been buying way too many pens and pencils and brushes and inks and what have you. I just bought a couple of brush pens, including a really expensive one with sable hair! It's pretty amazing - a Kuretake, but for the price I could have got 4 or 5 actual brushes that work better really, and don't need to be used once a week or they'll dry out and get ruined. I think it's time for me to chill out on this art buying spree.
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    I wasted about 10 minutes right in the beginning trying to block things in in tone, without drawing lines first, while using a grid. Big mistake!! Then I got panicked because I wanted something to show for the first 30 minutes that looked at least fully toned in, so I rushed and didn't measure out carefully enough. I won't do that again! Spent a lot of my time since then pushing things around with the liquify filter and transform tools and repainting parts.
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    You know my issue with buying art supplies? Absolutely does not apply to pens and ink. You would not believe how many pens I have. It's sort of a running joke amongst my friends. I get way too excited about that sort of thing. Japanese pens are my favourite, and I'm so jealous of that Kuretake, because I think I know exactly the one you mean -- the fountain pen? (I justify pens like that because I draw tons at work, but I'm leaving this job next week and moving, so I'm curious to see how that affects my own art buying sprees. ) The great irony of this is that lately, my absolute fave thing to draw with is a blue ballpoint sample pen my boss gave me... because it looked shiny, and he knows how I am about pens.

    On the bright side, you're getting comfortable with a range of tools. And, Kuretake awesomeness aside, you'll have the tools for later. I impulse-bought a decent field watercolour kit once because I had a 40% off coupon, then probably didn't use it for a year. You're having fun, and so long as you're not going to starve or get kicked out and you're not robbing banks to fund your sprees, look at it as an investment.

    (I am possibly the worst possible person to take advice from when it comes to buying things or money, however. I am the person who will tell you to buy the thing, the thing is great, you need the thing.)

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    Haha I know, robots definitely rock, right? I need to stop getting comfortable with a range of tools and start getting good with some of them! It's like every time I draw I'm a complete noob!! I buy art supplies like I'm running a school or something… I really need to stop. .Just after a few more that I really neeed

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    I made up a virtual mannikin so I can design some clothes on it. This is pretty cool - I feel almost like a concept artist or something! Hah hah!! Also learning about a lot of new brushes in photoshop (wow… just realized - I'm still doing it!!)
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    Been messing around in sketchbooks playing with line quality, trying to use it to describe form or light or both. I think when I get the hang of this it'll be another milestone thanks to level up. Then some Bridgeman - it's good to be done with hands and on to arms!

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    Your notes in #231 crack me up. Your sketchbook is a motivational dream, so much hard work and study lately. I too struggle with art supply addiction and photoshop brush option overload. I've conquered the buying part (for now), but Jason just kept pushing those textures in the comp studies and I'm afraid it led me to download 5 or so extra brush packs. Honestly, your textured brush work is looking pretty decent. I don't want to feed the addiction or anything, but the way you use texture just give your studies such an appealing quality to them. And the freckles on white cap just looked so freckle-y. I'm pretty sure even pros sometimes feel awkward when playing with new brushes.

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