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    That's a nice start, but is it just me or dose the neck appear too forward? Or is it just my sleep deprived eyes?

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    Hmmmm.... could be. She's sort of thrusting her neck forward a bit, but the pit of the neck might be off center - nice catch. I shall ponder on it. Meanwhile..

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    (And yeah, my pics were a bit big, weren't they?)
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    Today;s gestures. I switched from 60s to 30, and the panic came back briefly (which is probably a good thing actually).

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    Coming along nicely..

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    yeyyyy pose studies!! Have you gone through some anatomy books?
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    Yes, many anatomy books. My favorites, the ones that I think helped me the most, are Hogarth's Dynamic series and Robert Beverly Hale's Master series. Right now I'm starting to work through Proko's figure drawing stuff on his website - some amazing stuff!! Having a hard time with gestures, but they're starting to get better, and I;m sure with time they'll improve my work immensely. I had skipped right over quick sketches and gestures before and gone straight into anatomy, and now I'm still trying to put too much anatomy into my gestures.
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    It took me a long time to realize I was making her arms a lot thicker than they really are. In fact I've done this with all the MMA girls so far. Must make brain realize women don't bulk up like men do (unless they take growth hormone or something lol!)
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    Realized yesterday people seeing my gestures might think they're really terrible attempts at anatomical sketches. Wanted to demonstrate that I CAN do more complete sketches (not really good at it yet though). First attempt at using Conte pencil on newsprint (done after watching Vilppu's demo on Proko - great inspiration!!):

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    Same sketch rubbed down with a finger & heightened with white:

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    Rather than do 20 speed gestures from Quickposes today, I did 5 'slow gestures', trying to learn the proper form for drawing them. Probably spent 3 to 5 mins on each. Getting better..

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    (Ok, so I did 6 - one didn't come out so good so I tried it again)
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    Switched up from untimed to 1 min for these and drew big on newsprint. Sorry for the awful photo quality - need to work out a better lighting setup for it.

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    Ok, well I've largely solved the lighting issue now - example:

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    Undaunted

    Done (tentatively..)

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    Getting a lot better dude! That mma chick is starting to look really great! Just make sure you study that magnificent beast - Anatomy
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    Thanks man!! And I definitely will!
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    Latest gesture session from today (I did 3 separate sessions.. ):

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    Was having problems because I was drawing on newsprint, way too big for the scanner, and couldn't get good even lighting for digital pics, so switched to the tablet. Still feels weird - I can't move my whole arm to draw, just fingers and wrist, and the drawing surface on the tablet feels too small.I'll get used to it though. Now I still need to get rid of the surface contours and anatomy forms I keep putting into these and get to more pure gesture..

    I intuitively like Vilppu's gesture approach a lot more than Proko's - it feels more loose and organic to me. I need to move more in that direction.
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    Took one of today's gestures and developed it into a quick sketch

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    'Nuther'n...

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    Looking good! I really like what is going on the the midsection.

    This is the graphic designer/art director in me speaking now Make sure you pay extra attention to the lettering on her top. It kind of looks slopped on. If it were to look a little more accurate I think it would make the piece look more finished as opposed to a WIP. I think messy lettering can damage an otherwise nice painting


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    Done (tentatively..)

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    Thanks pindurski! I agree - it should be more accurate - puni is bigger than shment, and RVCA seems to be in some kind of reverse italics. I also dislike how clean and commercial it looks (I mean just the printed lettering). It's at odds with the organic roughness of the rest of the painting. I prefer the scribbly way I handled lettering in the 1st piece I posted here (my sketchbook icon) - there it's obviously done by the hand of an artist with no attempt to make it resemble commercial printing. I think this one looks too clean and perfect (aside from the accuracy problems). And if I'm going to keep doing these MMA paintings I need to find a good way to handle logos and printed words. I'm also not entirely happy with the background. I wanted it to be subtle, so at first maybe it looks like she's standing in front of the night sky or just darkness, then you start to notice that it's the darkened interior of the arena. But I think it's too subtle and too much undifferentiated darkness on the left side. A bit too scribbly too - somehow looks like a pastel drawing. I may go back and re-work it a bit.
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    Using a more Vilppu approach @ 45s.
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    Today's quicksketches:

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    wow man, awesome gestures! great improvement, keep it up

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    Thanks!!
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    Only posting gestures on the official quick poses thread today - here are tonight's quicksketches:

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    Carbon pencil on mi tients cream paper. Note to self - not a good combo (I don't think I like drawing with a carbon pencil). I notice I have a tendency, if the overall image appears elongated, to exaggerate the elongation. Need to watch that.

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    These were both done with a 4b charcoal pencil on cream mi tients. Very nice to work with.

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    My camera likes to keep messing with white balance and exposure - I don't think I have it set on full manual. Oh well, looks kinda cool!
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    Conte on mi-teintes

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    Man, this was horrifying at first!! So messy and uncontrollable - but then as I started bringing in lighter colors into the mangled areas I found I could fix it up pretty well.. and once it hit the point where i was layering chalk on top of chalk it became more like a painting than a drawing. I can see you could do just about anything like this with enough patience.
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    Another day, and more gestures:

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    1st painting attempt in the new studio space

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    Last night I set this up - I lightly drew with charcoal pencil on the canvas and went over the lines with an oil wash (alkyd actually, but it's basically the same thing - I just call it oil for simplicity's sake). Read this technique on Wetcanvas some time ago and it works, though you need to wait overnight for it to fully dry (a few hours would do).

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    There were a few spots where the paint was a bit too thick, so I rubbed it down a bit with a rag, then erased the charcoal marks so they don't smear out into the paint. (um… did that part after it was dry)

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    Couple pics of the new studio setup. It's nice - sure beats painting jammed in that tiny cramped space in the basement and sitting on the high hard chair!

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    Not too keen on the colors really - aside from light pink walls and pale sickly green cabinets everything is white. Feels like I'm in a clinic doing therapy painting - especially wearing my lab coat (it's ok though - I just ordered something different - hospital gowns..

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    Here's where it stands currently. Man, this is hard!!!
    And it isn't coming out nearly as well as my last couple of experiments from a while back..

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    The biggest difference is, on these both I pre-mixed colors according to values - light middle and dark, on different sections of my palette. Took forever, but it worked. On tonight's painting values are just not there - I need a plan to work from. In the one just above I even went so far as to do a burnt umber underpainting and it helped even more. I just don't think I'm ready to deal with creating values on the fly as I mix colors - too many other things to pay attention to. Next time I go back to pre-mixing colors in definite value ranges. Maybe I need to watch a bunch of painting demos again too..

    Now maybe if I do this nearly every day I'll be decent at it in a year or so!
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