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    Karawti Hawtie

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    Starting to make some breakthroughs

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    I'm beginning to make some headway, not just with this painting, but in my process. It started happening in the dirt and the trees, and that makes sense when I think about it, because those are areas where it's fun to play around, they're sort of random organic forms that don't need to have any particular shape, so you can doodle as much as you want and try things out. And when it gets fun and you lose that paralyzing tightness that's when you start to break through the boundaries that are holding you back.

    And it made me realize that I was still using a drawing approach.

    In drawing it's hard to make changes, so you do an outline drawing and then don't change it, and you do your shading in that. But painting is pretty much the opposite. It's easy to work on top of what you've already done, so you can (need to) start by working out the mass lights/shadows and colors in general, get those right, and THEN you can start on detailing. I keep reading this, and somehow I fooled myself into believing I was doing it (hah!) but I really wasn't. Things like those messed-up serratus muscles on the side of the archer's ribcage - I detailed them too early and got precious about it, didn't want to lose what I had done, so I never put in the dark shadows that needed to be there to define the form.

    So anyway, I'm now starting to bring in that kind of attitude on the figures as well as the random terrain stuff. I seem to make my best advances when I'm working on one painting like this for a long time and just keep playing with it (but now I want to start doing a lot of quick thumbnail sketches working on these ideas).
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    Hey man! You're definitely progressing! I really like your poses and the palette in your latest piece. Yeah! Do those thumbnail sketches! I should do those too, now that I think about it. But yeah, I recently started doing the whole "big shapes first and then details" too, so hard, but definitely rewarding! I'd love to see some screencap studies from you, mate! I've been doing them for quite a while and I'm convinced they help a lot, so I keep recommending them to everybody.

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    Thanks Othrandir, it's good to hear from you again. Screencap studies is an excellent idea, I need to do that.
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    Reilly head planes

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    Making some progress on the left half of this one.

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    I'm dubious about the real effectiveness of learning these Riley planes - but at least I'm going to memorize the major planes and draw the rest of them several times, see if I can memorize all of them. I suspect once you memorize the main ones the rest kind of fall into place when you think about the head.

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    It's confusing though - in the front view I see two big side planes that don't show up at all in the side view. Maybe from the front those smaller fragmented planes visually fuse into one big side plane? Not sure, but staying open minded and proceeding along..
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    I notice since I've been drawing multiple figures on big sheets of newsprint I'm starting to relate all the figures to the same ground plane. I didn't intend to, it just started happening that way.
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    Master study time!

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    About 1.5 hrs.

    John Byam Shaw. Really started to lose concentration near the end and just wanted to quit, so started getting sloppy. Should develop edges more. Dude got all short and lopsided too - should start with sketchy proportional lines to square things up.

    Little more work. Fixed lots of things, but kinda screwed up the tablecloth.

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    Ok, done now -- probably 2 hrs total.

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    Nuther 10 minutes..

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    Wow awesome studies here! I really like the way your doing the big complex scene step by step. very impressive
    One thing about that final study though. In the robe of the person on the right you went from a saturated red to a pinkish color, when it´s going more towards an orange/yellow. Same with the legs of the dog and the face of the woman. More yellows and oranges

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    Thanks! Yeah, it does need more orange, doesn't it?And more red on the blackrobe's face. And I realized after finishing it that their heads are actually only slightly bigger than their fists!! No wonder I had such a hard time trying to get them small enough! Haha!!

    Figure drawings from Croquis Cafe for today:

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    I'm combining a Proko approach with a Vilppu one - would that be Pro-ppu?
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    Masterstudy #2

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    Made him kinda chunky looking.
    Head should be a bit narrower and more triangular, higher cheekbones.
    His right hand is too big.

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    Tried to fix all the stuff mentioned above. Pretty happy with the results, but I probably developed the face too far (and he's got that crazy eyes rolled back in his head look like he's possessed.. ). Now I can see I need to develop the very subtle halftones in his coat and slim down that left sleeve a bit.

    Ok, I think I'm done with it. Probably 2.75 hrs total.

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    Lefebvre study - about 2 & 1/2 hrs.

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