Time to start my sketchbook..
Time to start my sketchbook..
Last edited by Darkstrider; January 18th, 2015 at 08:47 PM.
Done in PS Elements using an extremely limited palette - right up until the end it was only burnt sienna, raw sienna, ivory black and titanium white, but then I added a couple stronger colors mainly just for the gloves. Got the extremely limited palette idea from Mark Behm. I pulled the colors from a Dick Blick page of oil colors and pasted them onto a separate image that I used as a palette.
Last edited by Darkstrider; June 17th, 2014 at 04:09 AM.
Trying out the attachment manager - not sure if that's what we're supposed to use or not (I've seen conflicting instructions on the matter).
Ok, seems to be working. Guess I'll do it this way.
Very cool love the women happy to see someone do strong ones instead of vulnerable.
I like the fighter studies!
To improve at gestures I'd really reccomend checking out Proko's videos on youtube, he really explains the concept properly
Crits and help of any kind are more than welcome!
Last edited by Darkstrider; October 25th, 2013 at 05:58 AM.
Here's what I'm currently working on:
And yeah, I know - I'm breaking the cardinal rule of never emulating Frazetta. Screw it - you can't stop me!
Guess I ought to be posting these here too - gestures from Quickpose.com -- yesterday:
1) I'm getting over the terror that grips me when I first start this - I guess just familiarity does that.
2) I seem to be trying to do contour more than gesture.
I think it'll help me a lot to now go back and develop a couple of these farther - maybe as a contour sketch and then a more fully developed sketch. Plus maybe afterward try another gesture, with no time limit. Hopefully this can help me understand the difference between contour and gesture.
Last edited by Darkstrider; October 27th, 2013 at 01:21 AM.
One of today's gestures (I somehow missed uploading it earlier, even though it was my favorite)
Sketched up in greater detail, using a Derwent water soluble sketch pencil
Then worked over a bit with a water brush
And a bit more for final
Last edited by Darkstrider; October 27th, 2013 at 03:51 AM.
its funny how you draw those shaky unsure lines and in the end it still comes out right. interesting to see this unusual style, at least to me. in no way bad, just i'm not used to this personally. actually its been a long while since i saw it... thats paper right? digital artists train to draw straight firm lines. nevermind the comment, was just my inner monologue out loud
Thanks Bringer. None of it is intended to just be random wobbliness - the bumps and humps are supposed to be (somewhat exaggerated) indicating actual shapes on the body - muscles and bony parts. I'm kinda overdoing it though, I know - trying to draw pretty loose and fast. I figure as I get better and get more control over the pencil it'll hopefully stop looking like hand tremors or something and start to look right.
2 more, also from today's gestures. Not nearly as successful - it's like it's a performance art and sometimes you just can't get into the groove properly.
It probably doesn't help that I keep working with unfamiliar materials and techniques too. But I want to get used to fast techniques like wash. Though I think an actual watercolor wash would be better - this is hard to control.The 1st one was rough and then I hoped I could do it again without the searching lines etc and make it look good, but I lost my concentration, or just got tired of doing the same image again.
Thanks pindurski! And you picked my favorite version - I think I took it a bit too far after that.
Last edited by Darkstrider; October 27th, 2013 at 08:40 AM.
Today's 20 gestures from Quickposes.com:
Watched a couple Proko vids on gesture again - think I need to re-watch them every few days for a while, I'm picking up aspects of them I hadn't noticed before.
Did most of these @ 45 secs. My lines are getting smoother and Im starting to find the big sweeping gestures (sometimes) - hopefully after a while my accuracy will start to improves.
Derwent watersoluble sketch pencil. 1st sketch in my 1st Moleskine.
comp. charcoal & charcoal wash
Just playing around with media and different kinds of paper, to see what's gonna work.
Last edited by Darkstrider; October 29th, 2013 at 03:45 AM.
Wow, are my gestures getting worse? Lines are getting cleaner, more attention to movement and sweep, but proportioning etc is completely out the window.
Seeing the scan made me realize this didn't look very good so I worked on it some more
Not a LOT better, but better.
Carbon pencil. Man, I can swear I used to be able to draw!! Everything seems to be fighting me now.
Nice - I'll check that out as soon as I'm done typing this. In this case though I think it's because I'm still trying to figure out how to really do gestures. The ones I was doing at first were too hairy (too many extra lines all over) and I was trying to put in all kinds of anatomy and contour. I've been moving away from that stuff, but now I think I'm trying to do pure movement or sweep as I call it, and paying no attention to proportions etc. Proko did say it's like a pendulum swinging back and forth - you'll go one way and then the other until eventually you balance out. It does suck though seeing that just about everybody else's gestures are way nicer than mine! But I'll assume the people who post gestures the most are ones who are good at it.
Lol wow - is that Woody from The Suite Life? Sounds just like him!
I'm sure what he's saying is true - I've been through those ups and downs before. Right now though I;m in the same boat you seem to be judging by your sig - many years ago I could draw much better, but my skills have got pretty rusty. I;m also making thing hard on myself by messing with new media constantly and all these different kinds of paper. Whenever I'd start to get decent at drawing was always when I found a good combination of media and paper and settle in and get used to using it, and then just keep drawing with it. I do need to do that again, but right now I've got all these different kinds of paper and pencils and pens and stuff I want to mess with - some of them may turn out to kick ass. So a little more experimenting with them before I settle in.
And of course it's also partly because I;m pushing myself to do things I never have before - gestures etc. That'll always make you turn sucky for a while. But looking at that last sketch I posted, I need to get back to drawing basic shapes (cylinders especially it looks like). I'm confident if I stick with it for a while the skills will level up again.
Hey, that video actually reminded me of something I just read - either on this site or linked from here. Apparently noobs tend to have exaggerated ideas of their own skills, and to underplay the skills of truly good artists, while experienced artists go the opposite way and get all humble about their own abilities while thinking the noobs are almost as good as they are. Interesting the way the human mind works..
Little improvement on the last sketch:
Man, every time I upload these and get to see the magnified version I notice what needs improvement! Think I'll take it into PS and do a little reflected light up underneath the wrappings of wire.
Yeah, I know its a good thing - but right now it's making my quality of art go downhill, and there's a certain sense in which you feel like you're only as good as your last few drawings, you know? I feel like I really suck right now lol. But yeah, I'll definitely be back to the BAMF chicks!! Had to look that one up - I only knew it as the sound Nightcrawler makes!
Couple more pages in the sketchbook last night, concentrating on drawing cylinders in perspective:
Ahhh - good old graphite!! My old friend. I need to work with it for a while to get my confidence back up. I was afraid it was too shiny to scan well, but looks like it's not a problem. Content now..
Today's 20 gestures
Does anybody have any crits on my gestures? I feel lost in which way I need to go with them, but I can see they're not very good. I'll watch Proko again, that should help.
Beginning new BAMF (Love that term!)
Phixed up in Photoshop:
Ahh - if only we could use Transform tools and the Liquify filter on actual drawings and canvases!! And work on layers... but I dream..
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