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    Noktpapilio's sketchbook

    Hello, I first came across this website when I was sixteen. I had an interest in art, but thought I wanted to be a programmer. I soon found out that not only did I dislike it, I was no good at it. I spent the next few years trying to complete general ed, jumping from job to job, and generally trying to make my way in the world. As I got older, I started to lurk around here quite a bit more and get into art as a hobby. I thought that maybe I'd like to go to school for it. The only thing accessible to me at the time was community college, and I squandered even that. I thought at the time that doing figure studies and still lifes were boring and I didn't see how they connected to making space marines, alien races and monsters. I was stupid, and the only thing I can say for myself is that I didn't waste anyone's money but my own. Now I'm 23, I have a useless associates in digital media (It being useless is my own fault). I really haven't gotten anywhere with life, I don't know what I want or where I'm going, but I think i'd like to get to a more professional level with my artwork, and I feel finally coming here and starting a sketchbook is the first step.

    I'm going to try my best to update this sketchbook daily, and I would love any criticisms you can offer. =]

    I wanted to put some pictures up today of stuff I've drawn to kind of show where I'm at, my my uploads keep failing, so I will try again tomorrow. =]
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    Hey Noktpapilio, your story really strikes a chord with me because I was in a very similar situation and I really feel for you. I started getting serious about art a year ago although I'm not sure what "serious" is supposed to mean. I've just been self studying and feeling around in the dark hoping that I'm pointing myself in the right direction. I wouldn't call myself a pro or anything close to it but I do know some things. I'll be coming back to give you my thoughts on your work cause from what I read up there ^ I just want to see you grow leaps and bounds with your art.

    Don't let me down!
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    These are some pictures that I've done for classes in the past. I didn't get a chance to sort through the ones I've been doing recently because I got busy at work today, but I will do that tomorrow as I have the day off =]

    KyTran, It's great to know I'm not the only one who feels like they're stumbling around. Thank you so much for posting on my sketchbook. I will be sure to get some of my more recent drawings up tomorrow =] I'll be looking forward to see what you think. Good luck to both us!


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    Here are some pictures of where I'm at right now. These are my favorites, and I didn't want this post to become an image dump so I made an imgur link for all the rest in case anyone is interested.

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    Alright well here is some stuff from today. The picture of the snake woman I actually started yesterday, but finished today. I'd been drawing quite a bit of faces, so I wanted to see what I absorbed by drawing one from imagination. I don't think it came out super great, but I did have a lot of fun with it =] The picture of a bust I started today using a Charles Bargue drawing as reference; I'm going to try and work on it tomorrow.

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    Nice to see you working hard. Early on it's HARD to see and emulate what light does to the edges of objects and I think this is why less experience artists default to using outlines as a way to hold the form. If you are doing line drawings varying line weights are a way to give drawings form and in theory it's simple. "thicker, darker line for hard edges in shadow and lighter, thinner lines for soft edges in light"

    yeah but what it comes down to is understanding of light on forms and that's something that comes with time and study. Just keep edges in mind when you study and everywhere you look as you go about your day. There are no outlines in real life so what is really going on? and when you draw how can you represent that?

    One thing that Took me a VERY long time to really understand is that the darkest shadows (core shadows) are where the objects surface are tangent to the light source. If you think about what this really means and why this is the case, your understanding of light will grow SO FAST. This is a helpful image
    http://www.artinstructionblog.com/wp...2009_img_9.jpg
    When I was where you are I didn't take the principles in that image ^ seriously but I wish I did because it would have saved me a lot of time in my art studies.

    Another thing that I wish I did more early on is use reference when I did personal work. I don't mean find a face in the exact angle you need and use it to draw a face and then add your own stuff to it. I mean just find reference of your subject mater and look at it while you do your personal work. You will learn a lot without realizing it and your work will look better. This was/is the most useful learning technique for me. There is no shame in it and in no way does it make you a less good artist. And to people who say you're better if you don't need reference, forget them, because they have no idea what they are talking about.

    Again, in no way do I consider myself a expert. I was in the situation you're in and I still am so I just wanted to share the road blocks that I encountered in hopes that it might help you through your road blocks. Keep at it!
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    I didn't get a chance to do much work today, but I did work on the bust. Thanks for the link, KyTran. I know I've seen it before, but as you can see it's gone out the window, lol. In the drawing of the bust I really tried to implement this, but I think it needs more work. Looking at the diagram, I don't have all those different shadows on it. I will post the progress I made so far anyways though =]

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    I tried to apply the picture you gave me to this drawing, KyTran. =] Still not sure I got it quite right, but that's what practice is for, right? I do notice a huge difference from the last picture I took of it though. I also did a study of the sphere from memory to try and get it down. The other pictures were me attempting to draw people at mcdonalds, and my attempt at one of the fancy chairs when there was a lull in patrons. I don't think they came out great; it was really difficult trying to get down a persons gesture before they moved again. The last one is a study of a leg I started.

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    I got frustrated with the leg I was drawing so I completely started it over. Twice =p I think I finally have to proportions down and I'm working on the shading. The second drawing I was trying to shade a cone from memory before I looked it up. The third drawing I was doing on my lunch, trying to catch a guy in the act of enjoying his burger. I had to stop because he totally caught on and didn't seem happy with me. heehee =]

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    I'm actually really glad you did the sphere because now I know what info you are missing. The sphere I linked you actually doesn't label one important. The Terminator!
    The terminator is where the shadow family meets the light family. Basically where the very beginning of the core shadow. Something important to remember is that no part of the shadow family can ever be as bright as any part of the light family and no part of the light family can ever be as dark as any part of the shadow family. In the sphere you drew some of your "reflected light" region (which is part of the shadow family) is just as bright as some of your light family. I see it in your other sketches here and there also. For now when you go to shade I would, very clearly identify where the shadow and light family is and draw a light line to separate the two then begin shading and keep the rule I mentioned above in mind.

    when you do studies from photos you should post the photo too!

    my opinion: For your sketchbook, when you upload images I would re-size them to around 700 pixels(height). It's easier to view, loads fast, and you can't properly view an image if it's in your face. My eyes are about 3 feet from my computer screen and I don't really like to look at images much taller than 700 pixels. When i'm painting i'll go bigger sometimes but every few minutes I zoom out until the image is about 3 inches tall on my screen, otherwise i can't properly asses my image.
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    Ah, I see. Ok, I will try that out tomorrow =] I'm sorry about the pictures being too big; I do see what you mean though. I've been linking the pictures from my imgur account, so I'm not sure how to resize them. I'll ask my boyfriend tomorrow and I'll hold off on posting the ones I drew today until tomorrow. Thanks for coming back and giving me some more advice, KyTran =]
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    You can re-size and then upload images straight onto CA without having to go through another site. Not sure but it might also work if you re-sized the image before you uploaded to imgur.
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    Kytran: I'm not sure why but everytime I try to attach the images directly to conceptart it doesn't work, but I found out how to resize them; I felt really dumb because it was right there under where you upload them. Let me know how if I should still make them smaller =]

    I didn't get much work done because I wasn't feeling too great and I slept most of the day. But I'm better now and I'm going to right back on tomorrow =]

    I finally finished that leg though I still don't feel it looks quite right.

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    these are just some random doodles I did
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    I really felt that leg needed work, so I started doing some studies of them from one my Andrew Loomis books. The first image is the original copy
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    and this is what I've got so far:
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