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    **Tried to chill the thread out some, let me know if it needs more chilling out. I wanted to post all my work from the day in one post but I see that is a bad style. **

    Well, I've been lurking on this forum for well over a year now maybe two. Decided its time I get some work up. A little about myself, I'm mostly self taught, at the moment going to art school is a little out of the question (though I should probably jump in a few classes at the community college.) I'm into making 3d/multimedia type stuff, and am trying to get better at 2d art to improve my work overall. My main influences at the moment are probably Loomis and Villpu, just trying to nail down the fundamentals and what not. Hopefully I'll be updating this thread fairly often but we'll see how it goes. Big props to Conceptart.org and all the guys who run the show here, without this place I dont think I'd know anything about making art.

    Anyways, here's a big dump of stuff, so you can get an idea of how I work. I tried not to censor myself too much. This is all from the past couple of weeks, done in a little 5.5" X 8.5" sketchbook with mechanical pencil.

    If you've got any comments or suggestions let me know what you think.
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    Got inspired by the OC thread and started messing with it. I haven't messed with color that much so I guess I gotta start getting it wrong sometime..
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    Moving back in swing.
    Thumbs inspired by Marko's post.





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    You've loosened up you lines!! Way to go! Your latest work is a big jump in the right direction, man!

    Keep 'em coming!

    d-C

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    Hey dCept, thanks man! Yeah sometimes I am going a little looser these days but, sometimes it feels like its tighter. Mentler wrote a response to someone here (a month or two ago) that really made me pay attention to everything my lines are doing. So I feel like I'm paying more attention and getting more out of my line which makes it feel kind of tight mentally but then it ends up kind of loose anyways which is a good thing.

    Alright here's some stuff from the past couple of months that I think are at the end of their lives for now. May/may not go back and work on them.







    And here's something from the past week, feel like a hit a new mark with this one.. realized a bunch of stuff doing these studies.



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    good job. i see major progression .

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    The Sept. 1st updates are some of my favs or the thread, man. Great lines and looks really fun and fluid! You're making some nice strides, just keep up the work. Keep up the studies, anatomy and such and drawing from life. You're learning. It just takes osme time. Keep building up! Drawing! It does a sketchbook good!

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    Osgoon - Thanks man! I'm trying

    Zebz - Yeah I like those too, some of them at least. I had a realization about making form with line that day.. one of those days you cant stop drawing just because you want to see where you can take some new ideas. I'm trying to keep it up as much as I can.. f'n work is killing me lately. Thanks for the encouragement bro.

    Jens - Yeah I figure if I make myself fill the space than one day it will force me to really consider the composition before I start going crazy building up whatever forms I can all over the place. About the lines.. I know what you're saying .. I'm actually sort of frustrated with digital line work lately because I have so much more control with a pencil or pen in that respect. Really I just need to go back over them with more confident lines on a second layer or something.. Thanks for the crit man, much appreciated.

    Tried to finish this one, maybe will add more around it later. I liked it better flipped.



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    your pencils keep inproving man... the sky gazing piece is my favorite... i dont know how i missed it before.

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    hell ya man big jumps excited to see waht you been working on man ! looking good !

    oh nose i think avage nose is like 1.5 eyes long or there abouts some of them lookin a little long ... but every ting working good man starting aug 31 is takeing a real real nice turn !

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    yo mike, it's been awhile since I poked my head in here. It's nice to see cool stuff going on, you're rendering has gotten a LOT more refined these past months.... as has your sense of form and volumne. Nice composition on 417-sitting.jpg


    keep it up dude!

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    oh, 413-figure study.. that one looks really nice. The way you cut the shading to white makes it look much more of a photoquality... you might wanna tinker with that in your other renderings too?

    coolness.

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    Hey man, this is good stuff all around, but the work in Post #226 caught my eye. There seems to be something lost in the translation from lineart to modeled forms. Your values seem consistently too dark, even in your painter work. You could try suggesting more with the linework, before you delve into shading right away.

    The work in that post stands out to me as having the most potential, seeing as how it hasn't already been overdone with dark shading. Your shading is generally accurate, but just overall too dark, IMO.

    Just a thought.

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    Dns - Hey thanks man, glad you like it.. Even though its rough I liked that one too.

    Liam - Good spots on the nose! I like em big man what can I say Nah, thanks for that man I hadn't really noticed. Real good talking to you the other night.

    Fat Kid - Yeah man, I been working on it for awhile now.. CA is the place!! I wouldnt know jack if it wasnt for all of the helpful people around. I'll try and make some more linework soon.

    Joe - Hey man thanks for dropping by! Thats a good suggestion on the values.. I think it sort of goes hand in hand with Paul's crit. I sort of tried that a little with the portrait in this update.

    Paul - Dude your crit is spot on, it took me a few reads to really absorb but yeah I tend to do that A LOT, I noticed. Thanks for that man.. will try and avoid this for sure.

    Filled up this one and made a portrait.. I think they still need more love but I think I am just done looking at them for now.




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    Ooo...I really like the last couple of pages a lot.

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    hi some_guy,

    I've walked through your thread and I really like the things you are creating, keep on doing your stuff

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    Wow. I seem to have joined the SSG of "people who have had sketchbooks on CA.org for way too long to just be joining SSG now."

    Your stuff is way above the level of what you've started with. It's pretty jaw dropping when I consider the timeframe.

    I'd love to see your pencil sketches a little more. In many of them the value range is a little limited, and it limits what you can say about the form. You seem to nail it much more in the digital stuff, and that may be because of the tool.

    Keep up the great work!

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    There is some really great progress goin on here, I especially like your damn loose lines, I wish I could do that

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    OKay there is something fucking strange goin on here: I used 2 different links to get to your sketchbook. If I follow the first link, oyur sketchbook has 25 Pages, if I use the 2nd link your sketchbook has onyl 5 pages. Holy shit I must be really tired

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    okay I have found the problem

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    That Fat Kid - Thanks man, I realized a little too far into the sketch of that guy that he was a little too close to the edge I was too far into it to feel like correcting it, but I knew he shouldnt've been so close. It makes it tough to keep your eyes over there, draws you over but it makes you want to look away.

    Haldor - Thanks dude!

    bdfoster - Haha yeah, been on here for awhile. I'm glad you think its going well.. sometimes I feel like I'm not moving forward enough. Yeah pencil is actually the most comfortable thing for me right now but I do have a hard time with value range.. which is why I still dont really do much color work. Whats tough for me is knowing where to put them.. because you cant just slap the whole range down everywhere. With digital I have an easier time messing around and pushing to make sure I get the darks and lights in there in appropriate places, or can just undo if it doesnt work out. Pencil requires a lot more foresight which makes it fun but tougher.

    Gloominati - Thanks man! For loose lines I learned a lot about that from the workshop back in February. I'd see Targete roughing out his compositions and he hardly ever picked up his pencil! Same with a lot of the other artists there . Everything I drew at the time was too tight and mentally sort of stiff and mechanical. Good exercise for you -- draw some things, hold the pencil with a loose grip and pick up the pencil as minimally as possible. When you run into a spot where you'd normally pick it up, draw lighter and run the line across the form until you get where you need to. Hard to explain but imagine you are drawing a nose.. usually when you are done you would pick it up and move onto the eye. Instead draw a line that runs from the nose and along the cheek, as if its on the surface, describing the form, and take that over to the eye. When you get stuck just keep the pencil where it is ((don't pick it up))and think about where to go next. I find this helps a lot.

    Van - Thanks dude!

    I've been reading up on photographic composition and I tried to plan this one out to be a scene with characters and think about the composition. After going for it straight out and spending the last 3 days on it , I can see why thumbnails are such a good idea. Had no idea where my values were going to go for sure and I'm sure there was a better way to make this flow. But I'm gonna keep trying to push this way and get to making some more thought out stuff.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Some_Guy

    Good exercise for you -- draw some things, hold the pencil with a loose grip and pick up the pencil as minimally as possible. When you run into a spot where you'd normally pick it up, draw lighter and run the line across the form until you get where you need to. Hard to explain but imagine you are drawing a nose.. usually when you are done you would pick it up and move onto the eye. Instead draw a line that runs from the nose and along the cheek, as if its on the surface, describing the form, and take that over to the eye. When you get stuck just keep the pencil where it is ((don't pick it up))and think about where to go next. I find this helps a lot.
    Thanks for posting this tip, it suits my way of thinking perfectly, though I had never thought of working this particular way before. I'm sure you're not thinking about the picture from Nov 12 anymore, but compositionally it's just wierd, and I usually don't even notice composition. The way the figures are cut off at the leg, the gun is almost out of the picture making me want to look off in that direction, and it's off balance because of the really tall woman all the way on the right.
    I don't understand the tilt on the new one, it would work just fine without it. If you want a tilt then to the right would probably work better. The feeling I get from these three latest comps is that something more interesting is happening beyond the picture, mostly because everyone is looking out of the pic.

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    nice, though one big mistake, the air, is always, and then I mean ALWAYS lighter then the ground (unless there is ofcourse a light shining on the ground from a lamppost or something)

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    hell yah man ! try your comps as minis<like 2 or 3 inch > so not spend so much time on them and hit some that are just shapes and then come in and let them become some thing . that way you can with a glance see waht ones are working out and you can get assloads done . oh have a read agean on that informal subdivison thing in creative illustration that was verry helpfull to me !
    actuly that whole section in CI would be good to run in tandem with the photo comp book ! keep rockin man you allways improveing so fast !!!!!!!

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    yeah man thanks for the advice, I'll try that!!
    Coll new drawing dude but the form of ther girlys body gets kinda lost in this black suite, some lighter shading in three wouldn have been bad, like on that glove!
    Keep on rocking dude, I like this thread

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    I think the guy is hunched over too far. His guns are angled slightly up from his arms. They should be straight. Also, the woman's breasts aren't well defined. There's only the slightest indication of a bulge there. Finally, I'd try a different shading technique (from the rest of the drawing) for the night sky. It looks like a flat roof. I think the guy's pants on the right leg need to be darker due to shadow.

    Otherwise pretty good.

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    Dammit, when i followed the link to this thread i thought "Shit, im in a sketchgroup with someone who has a 25 page sketchbook!!"

    Now i've looked through it all, and i really like your progress! Another good example on how dedication really pays off. I dont have any crits for now, im just gonna cheer you on, keep doing what you're doing. I admire your dedication!

    //edit: i see now that it only showed 10 posts per page. Now, with 60, its five pages..

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