"Point to all the stats you like and I'll keep ignoring them. "
Mmm yeah see thats kind of the problem with america on a lot of issues isnt it?
who cares about reality when youve got an opinion?
"Sandy Hook was a tragedy. But every once in a while a bus driver will get into wreck and kill all of the passengers. That's just as tragic. Should we ban buses."
nope we need buses, although we will make them all automatic and self driving.
"Besides, according to some statistics gun related homicide and violent crime in general have actually gone down significantly over the past 20 years or so"
vaguely alluding to something isnt the same as showing it to me. it carries no weight.
"The main thing that comes to mind with owning a gun 'small dick syndrome'. Makes you feel tough in that crazy world out there."
exactamundo. theyre a symbol that creates a powerful sense of being dangerous and able to control anyone to any idiot that picks one up. not good. people shouldnt be allowed, and i dont just mean by the law, but by the reality of the place they live, to just carry machine guns around. they shouldnt be available to anyone. the counter is always oh, well, theyll get them if they want them, wont they, ay? which ill address next.
"I know this might surprise you, but owning a gun doesn't make you wack-a-doo-batshit-trigger-happy; shooting anyone you please."
it doesnt surprise me at all, but spread enough of them around and as we;ve seen nutters and idiots will get them and shoot people at batman. am i wrong? you cant get a handgun here unless youre an armed cop or you know some seroiusly heavy people and can give them a great deal of money. and hide it, and if anyone sees it the cops immediately attack you with guns and if you live they lock you up... and thats just a pistol.. a machine gun? seriously? you might as well try and buy a nuclear bomb here. schoolkids the age of the ones at collumbine, the batman movie, sandyhook dont know hardened gangsters and dont have thousands in cash lying around. in america, you only need to sneak into your moms gunbox..
"None of this equals me or most of the people I know. Painting with a pretty broad stroke VK."
Bill to all americans who dont just ignore statistical analysis, who think machineguns are evil, god is imaginary, gays can marry if they want, the war on drugs failed and that women have the right to manage their own reproductive biology, i apologise. the rest of them? fuck em.
i bring that up because a lot of republicans who love guns and say its their right to have one seem pretty happy to take away womens rights, and gay peoples rights, immigrants rights, poor peoples rights, the rights of future generations of people whod like not to live in a world wracked with climate problems... which kind of sinks their view below the waterline on rights rather.