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    Loomis' Stickman... does he have a wife?

    I have a question about Loomis' stick figures. He makes them like this
    Loomis' Stickman... does he have a wife?

    But isn't that only the male skeleton? Loomis talks about how the female frame is slightly different (women's arms are shorter etc), but then he only shows the male(?) skeleton. Although male and female skeletons are largely the same, I don't think the difference is negligible, so I already pay attention to the arms, but the hips still mystify me.

    Is there anyone out there that knows what exactly makes female hips wider? Is it the pelvis? or the femur? Or is it just fat distribution?

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    A womannikin frame? what do other authors say about it? like hampton or bridgman?I'm looking it up. I want to know as well.

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    The chart is probably best used to get a general understanding of the proportions, every individual person you draw will be slightly unique. It's really hard to generalise.

    As for your question about female anatomy I think your best bet might be to look at actual photos/skeletons rather than charts like this, I believe it's a bone thing and not a fat thing though.

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    @ gibi
    hehe yup. A womannikin. I'm not sure about hampton or bridgman. I'm not familiar with their books.

    @ aks9
    Yeah, I use the skeleton chart only as a tool. Every skeleton is different, but it's good to know how the "normal" body is built if you want to make up your own characters and so on.

    I tried looking for photos/skeletons, but I can’t really get anything out of them. It's hard to compare hips because the male skeletons are larger and I'll have to do all sorts of calculations that I'm not sure I know how to do. Also the skeletons are not ideal skeletons, so any info I get out of them only go for those skeletons. I'll try to look at more pictures though. Maybe I'll find something after all.

    btw I found this, but these kinda contradict Loomis

    Loomis' Stickman... does he have a wife?

    Loomis said that the elbow starts where the last rib ends, but these skeletons have longer upperarms.
    Also I can see a difference between the hips, but I'm not sure about the accuracy of these skeletons.

    These are also interesting

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lost My Marbles View Post
    Is there anyone out there that knows what exactly makes female hips wider? Is it the pelvis? or the femur? Or is it just fat distribution?
    A while back I posted some diagrams and extracts explaining this exact subject from Figure Drawing by Richard Hatton [1904], which as you'll see is an old but very detailed book. The extracts are in the second post on the page, and links to get the complete book are in the preceding post:
    http://www.conceptart.org/showthread...=224993&page=3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lost My Marbles View Post
    Is there anyone out there that knows what exactly makes female hips wider? Is it the pelvis? or the femur? Or is it just fat distribution?
    A while back I posted some diagrams and extracts explaining this exact subject from Figure Drawing by Richard Hatton [1904], which as you'll see is an old but very detailed book. The extracts are in the second post on the page, and links to get the complete book are in the preceding post:
    http://www.conceptart.org/showthread...=224993&page=3

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    Woah, That's amazing. This stuff is gold! This looks like it'll help a great deal. Thank you so much briggsy. I'm gonna bookmark that thread so hard it wouldn't even know what hit it.

    I also found that loomis did indeed give his stickman a wife... why he didn't introduce her earlier is another matter, but for now I'm good. The male/female skeleton I posted in my 2nd post is also by loomis.... which I find rather interesting.

    Last edited by Lost My Marbles; June 13th, 2013 at 12:49 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lost My Marbles View Post
    Loomis' Stickman... does he have a wife?
    What trickery is this? Both figures are 8 heads long and their heads measures the same. How does this make the male figure taller.

    EDIT: Never mind, I put my ruler on the screen and measured 3.2 cm for the male and 3 cm for the female. 0.2 difference times 8 equals 1.6 cm difference. lol
    To briggsy@ashtons: Thank you for the link.

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    Hehe, Math: world's most ancient witchcraft.

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    I knew it! My pinky finger can't be trusted for measuring things.

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