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June 13th, 2013 #1
Loomis' Stickman... does he have a wife?
I have a question about Loomis' stick figures. He makes them like this
But isn't that only the male skeleton? Loomis talks about how the female frame is slightly different (women's arms are shorter etc), but then he only shows the male(?) skeleton. Although male and female skeletons are largely the same, I don't think the difference is negligible, so I already pay attention to the arms, but the hips still mystify me.
Is there anyone out there that knows what exactly makes female hips wider? Is it the pelvis? or the femur? Or is it just fat distribution?
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A womannikin frame? what do other authors say about it? like hampton or bridgman?I'm looking it up. I want to know as well.
June 13th, 2013 #3
The chart is probably best used to get a general understanding of the proportions, every individual person you draw will be slightly unique. It's really hard to generalise.
As for your question about female anatomy I think your best bet might be to look at actual photos/skeletons rather than charts like this, I believe it's a bone thing and not a fat thing though.
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June 13th, 2013 #4
hehe yup. A womannikin. I'm not sure about hampton or bridgman. I'm not familiar with their books.
Yeah, I use the skeleton chart only as a tool. Every skeleton is different, but it's good to know how the "normal" body is built if you want to make up your own characters and so on.
I tried looking for photos/skeletons, but I can’t really get anything out of them. It's hard to compare hips because the male skeletons are larger and I'll have to do all sorts of calculations that I'm not sure I know how to do. Also the skeletons are not ideal skeletons, so any info I get out of them only go for those skeletons. I'll try to look at more pictures though. Maybe I'll find something after all.
btw I found this, but these kinda contradict Loomis
Loomis said that the elbow starts where the last rib ends, but these skeletons have longer upperarms.
Also I can see a difference between the hips, but I'm not sure about the accuracy of these skeletons.
These are also interesting
Last edited by Lost My Marbles; June 13th, 2013 at 11:32 AM.
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Woah, That's amazing. This stuff is gold! This looks like it'll help a great deal. Thank you so much briggsy. I'm gonna bookmark that thread so hard it wouldn't even know what hit it.
I also found that loomis did indeed give his stickman a wife... why he didn't introduce her earlier is another matter, but for now I'm good. The male/female skeleton I posted in my 2nd post is also by loomis.... which I find rather interesting.
Last edited by Lost My Marbles; June 13th, 2013 at 12:49 PM.
June 15th, 2013 #8
EDIT: Never mind, I put my ruler on the screen and measured 3.2 cm for the male and 3 cm for the female. 0.2 difference times 8 equals 1.6 cm difference. lol
To briggsy@ashtons: Thank you for the link.
Last edited by Dormema; June 15th, 2013 at 03:21 AM.
June 15th, 2013 #9
Hehe, Math: world's most ancient witchcraft.
June 16th, 2013 #10
I knew it! My pinky finger can't be trusted for measuring things.