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    Stan has some great videos for placement of features during foreshortening
    http://www.stanprokopenko.com/blog/2...angles-part-4/

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    You have the shape of the zygomatic arc a bit wrong, and it interferes with the placement of the ear. Check the underlying skull shape first!

    The ear is a bit small, too.

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    arehaus: You're right, I haven't memorized the skull adequately. I'll work on that and repost soon.

    dpaint: I'm glad you linked to that video because it shows what my problem is.

    You see loomi, the styrofoam guy, with the sides of his spherical head cut off vertically? What planes are those meant to be? The plane where the ears are? The temples? The planes where the outer edges of the brows end? They're not the same, yet he aligns the top of the ear with the brow edge like they were in the same vertical plane. How does that work? If you imagine a plane going through the edge of the brow and the ear it would be a slanted plane inwards towards the nose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leonor View Post
    arehaus:You see loomi, the styrofoam guy, with the sides of his spherical head cut off vertically? What planes are those meant to be? The plane where the ears are? The temples? The planes where the outer edges of the brows end? They're not the same, yet he aligns the top of the ear with the brow edge like they were in the same vertical plane. How does that work? If you imagine a plane going through the edge of the brow and the ear it would be a slanted plane inwards towards the nose.
    Well, these plane cutoffs are more or less representing the temples. But they are more of a lay-in trick than a real anatomical feature, and you are right about the head not working that way. All these things are, ultimately, simplifications and models meant to aid in memorizing and/or analyzing the human form. They are useful tools, but not the pinnacle of knowledge. You can stylize the form based on them too, but you don't have to.

    I am not sure why anyone would take them for granted and try to continue using them past the first five lines you doodle to roughly place the future drawing of the page!

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    But that's the issue, the method doesn't even work as "the five first lines". This scheme is not a proper foundation to draw realistic heads. Loomis made it up to entertain beginners and help them visualize stuff in 3D or whatever, but once he places features, they're in a different structure than what he's teaching.

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