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March 4th, 2013 #1
Spartan Camp #257 - 50 gestures + Optional "Balance Study"
Spartan Camp #257 - 50 gestures + Optional "Balance Study"
The aim is to produce 50 gestures by Sunday the 10th of March.
- The gestures can be of anything, human, animal, cavorting capybaras.... You can draw full figures, but you can also go for heads, arms, eyes, or anything specific. All media can be used, both digital or traditional. Coloured or black/white. Quick scribbles or long studies. Imagination or referenced. Clothed or nude. Specifics are up to you!
- In addition to this, participants can choose to do an Optional "Balance Study", in any medium.
Additional notes on this weeks’ Optional Study:
When figure drawing, there's the risk of ending up with 'floating figures'. Or figures that don't seem to be firmly standing. Or they fall over or look just slightly awkward. The balance of a figure is important, so it's time for some exercise!
How does one study balance? Some common methods utilize the center of mass (or gravity) and a balance line. We're not studying physics, but some background can be useful. Any object or form (say, a body) has a single unique point, usually somewhere in the middle, around which the mass is distributed. The mass is balanced around this point. For us, the center of mass can be a reference point. For example, if you indicate your approximation of the center of mass in a figure drawing, you may notice that the legs do not support this point very well. You can also draw a balance line from the center of mass to the ground to test this (see reference links 1,2 and 3).
Sounds confusing? Check some of the reference links below! For the current exercise, draw a center of mass and balance line for one or several figures. Use these to check whether your figures are in equilibrium.
Link: Guide about the center of mass and balance in general. Good advise here!
Link: Google books, pages 120 and 121.
Link: Google books again, pages 64 and 65.
Link: Decent video, somewhat applied to fashion but good overall.
Link: Useful info about the center of mass itself. Note that this applies to figures as wel, including the 'magic trick' with the two forks!
As always- reference advised, not obligatory. Colour, medium, time frame, any specifics are up to you! Good luck and have fun! And feel free to ask questions!
50 poses is a challenge, but don't hurry or stress yourself reaching it! Focus on drawing, as practising is the main goal of this exercise.
Criticizing each other is highly encouraged!! Share constructive criticism, reference images and resources!! Let's help each other get better!
Come on soldiers! Flex those muscles!!
HALL OF FAME - SPARTAN CAMP #256
Last edited by Anthis; March 5th, 2013 at 07:26 AM.
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March 5th, 2013 #2
Okay this looks like a good idea...never done this before but goodness knows I need the "forced" practice. Here's my contribution so far!
Because I thought having some Spartans in the Spartan challenge might be fun...
March 5th, 2013 #3
I hope I can get this done. I dont think I have completed a Spartan camp but I will try my best with this one.
March 5th, 2013 #4
Viking Raider- You're off to a good start! I like the variation, and your insistence on doing some hands and foreshortened figures too. Not shying away from the tough ones! I'm spotting something for the optional study in there as well. In some of the faces, your emphasis may be slightly too much on the big features like eyes/nose/mouth. Things like the chin shape, cheek bones and shape of the head don't tend to draw as much attention but they can add just as much character to a face. At least, that's how it seems to me. I think you're doing pretty good on the proportions overall though. More full figures please! Pretty neat batch of sketches.
Pete Hidalgo- Impressive! I'd say you're doing a great job with both studies and figures constructed by yourself. Good to combine those. Nice structural approach, good dedication! I see you're doing Loomis too. Remember how often he talks about mostly simple shapes and forms and the planes they create. From my own experience, I think its good to keep that in mind. No need to draw a beautiful outline of a nose, you can pretend it is some sort of sloped pyramid shape. Makes it easier to draw from any angle. Consider that much of the head has bone directly under the skin, so many of the shapes have a fixed form too. Great work!
As it turns out I really needed this optional study. I decided to start with the optional study and things went much smoother than I expected. I'll see if I can do some more gestures later on because I didn't have much time to experiment yet. Really looking forward to it, I feel I can do much better after this.
March 6th, 2013 #5
Anthis- going strong AS EVER I see! hmmm.. alright, gonna get officially off my lazy ass and draw too tonight! Spartan camp was good for me.
I think I still miss a real drill-instructor to come yell at me when I'm slacking off though :p
My awesome laptop is dying on me :/ soI guess I'll have to use old-fashion pencil and paper.. and scan it. how low-tech. I'll see if I can push myself to do it though. usually, if I draw something like that I get bored with the scanning phase :p
Pete Hidalgo- you, my friend, just got me drawing again. I saw all those wonderful, hard-worked on scetches by you, and then I noticed one very basic, unnessicary mistaken, and I had to do a draw-over. the mistake is, you use contruction-lines, but you do not draw them around the shape, only on the side you can actually see them. this makes the construction-lines pretty close to useless, as then you can no longer check if they are going round in the right way.
ie, example this drawover:
(my apologies in advance for butchering your hard work; its meant in the nicest and most contructive way.)
March 6th, 2013 #6
Heya Ashess! Thanks for adding the paintover. Also looking forward to seeing your sketches again. Personally I think the quality of my gestures tends to fluctuate but I'll be adding some decent ones later on .
I'm sure many of you have noticed the recent developments in the lounge and on various other websites, putting Conceptart.org in a negative light.
Personally though, I have no intention of leaving CAO or ceasing my activity in the Spartan Camp for now. Just clearing the air!
Last edited by Anthis; March 6th, 2013 at 02:52 PM. Reason: typos, added note
March 6th, 2013 #7
^^it was my pleasure. as for fluctuation of quality, it happens to us all, I think. something about out of every thousand drawings ten being okay, and only one actually good?
though, I imagine I'll have to do at least a few thousand before I'm back @ decent again. I had a little conversation with my hand just now, while drawing. it went a little like:
"omg, my hand! what are you doing? you call that an elbow? that's not an elbow, it's a blob!"
"oh, really. what does an elbow look like then, head?"
"its, uh. the joint protrusion is all at the wrong spot. it needs to move."
"really? which way should it move?"
".... I forget."
"yeah, that's what I thought."
so... yeah. I knew this moment had to come. I actually tried to own up several times in the past. picked up the pencil, drew about one picture, and quit shuddering in revulsion :p its not that the drawings are bad per say; it's just like it feels like my hand and brain have lost the means to communicate. the problem should clear itself up if I stick with it.
1 page of no ref, then some ref studies, so I at least remember what an elbow looks like :p
March 6th, 2013 #8
@ Viking Raider, Wonderful start! I like that you're tackling more than one study objective, love the details on the spartan helmets. I would suggest adding more timed studies, like 30-60 second gestures as those will help you a with line economy and dynamic poses.
@ Pete Hidalgo, Head construction FTW! It's clear that you're also thinking about body construction in your full bodies, I can see the volume in the torso areas in some of the figures. For the timed studies, try to avoid details like the hair and finer elements of clothes...You can spend that time on the gesture/structure of the figure itself. Keep up the good work! for the rest, Anthis covered it perfectly.
@ Anthis, you're made of win! I'm taking notes on how to handle balance and volume shading. You flesh out the form in a thoughtful and deliberate way. Do you use different gesture drawing sites than lovecastle, pixellovely, quickposes? Because I see different poses.
ps: drama alert? I didn't hear of anything negative about CA aside from that virus attack a couple of months ago. Hope everything stays good.
@ ashess, Good energy in those lines! You have an interesting style, I'd love to see more gestures/studies. short for the short comment, I can't think of anything of anything else.
I wanted to dedicate today to drawings from imagination. Again with the muscle form vs straight outline thingy.
Last edited by - nat -; March 6th, 2013 at 05:05 PM.
March 7th, 2013 #9
Anthis: I have noticed the same thing about my...not really proportions I guess, but features being a little too big...I almost always have to go back and either tweak the chins, cheeks, etc., or shrink eyes nose mouth, etc...now that I'm playing more digital it's a lot easier but I suppose it would be easier still to just do it right the first time! LOL easier said than done... more practice!
e-nat: Thanks for the suggestion on timed studies...I went to quickposes and tried the 30 second challenge...WOW I've never done something like that before. Talk about intense!! That was loads of fun...definitely will do more! Thanks for the nudge. I've seen so many people post about it but never tried and now I can't wait to do it again next chance I get. What fun! Here's the results...
March 7th, 2013 #10
Viking- those are good gesture drawings. I could tell you to focus on stuff, maybe indeed proportion or composition. but its a gesture, so it shouldnt matter much right?
e-nat: yow, I love your lines. espec on those legs in the 1st page. one of the legs might be longer then the other on that middle one, the one with the knee. but who cares. I love the round/sharp angle thing, and then the shading too.
As for my style: haha! I call it 'not half as clean as I wanted and too lazy to fill in the blanks.'
heres a few more. just 1/2 an hour. had karate practice today. come home late and tired, and only just set myself to draw. I did draw my kids a bit this afternoon, but it was a complete fail, and then my daughter stole my paper too. (omg. it that like my dog ate my homework?)
some 5 mins from pixellovely.
March 7th, 2013 #11
March 8th, 2013 #12
Back from my holiday.
Loving the new link we have at the top! Although it currently links to the previous topic lol.
Great start from everyone!
I'm just gonna quickly dump what I did overseas in here and then get on with the new topic.
Some of these were done before Sunday and some wernt lol but I will just keep them all together.
The moleskin pages are drawings from life.
I got to try archery for the first time whilst I was there so I did some poses from imagination afterwards. Not to brag but I won too!
Doubt kills more dreams than failure ever will.
In a bad mood? Take it out on my sketchbook! All constructive critique welcome!
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March 8th, 2013 #13
Okay so had to get this last batch in because I'll be out of town for a wedding the next day or so and then my kids birthday party is this weekend so no time to draw let alone upload! But had to finish the challenge and get at least my 50 in. This was fun, can't wait for next week!