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    Certificates or Degree?

    I was looking at art schools in the L.A. area. And 2 schools stuck out for me; Gnomon and Pasadena Center of the Arts. I was leaning towards Gnomon until I found out that they only offer certificates now is a degree all that important if I want to become a concept artist? Also if any one has any advice on what school to pick then I would love to hear your 2 bits.

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    From what I understand (which may not be all that well) most places are more concerned with your abilities and not with your certificates and degrees. If you have the paper, I can't see it hurting, but from what I understand a studio wants to see work ethic and artistic skills. so I f you can get those without going to a four year college, maybe that is the best route.

    I'm thinking about taking some online classes from Gnomon before going to Ringling for Game art and design. If the certificates I may get count for anything, I figure all they can do is help in the long run.

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    Well to be honest, does a degree really matter in art? So far all the professionals I spoke with said they have never once been asked for their degree... Just an amazing portfolio!

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    In the art world all that matters is what you do. People hire artist because they have a good portfolio not a good degree. To become a concept artist you need to work your ass off anywhere you go. It's one of those professions that are really hard to get into and stay into so before going to school with that idea be prepared to put everything into drawing. Anyways I would personally pick Pasadena Center of the Arts. I have heard good things about the illustration program there. Gnomon is not bad but I think it's better to go a 4 year college since you'll basically learn more. You can still check from time to time Gnomon's online classes. Anywhere you choose is fine as long as you are prepared to give it your all and you might just make it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neighborlyodin View Post
    now is a degree all that important if I want to become a concept artist?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elwell View Post
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    Tristan, Did you not go to schools of the arts and do you not have a degree or two and do you not also intruct at a physical campus in New York?

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    The degree is not the important thing. The skills you learn by way of getting the degree are far more important. If the two can coincide, great. If not, I'd always say the skills are the first priority.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StaticX View Post
    Tristan, Did you not go to schools of the arts and do you not have a degree or two and do you not also intruct at a physical campus in New York?
    Yes, I have a BFA, I have taught at the university level for almost twenty years, and I can unequivocally say, with a few specific exceptions (getting a job in a foreign country, for example), that a degree is not that important if you want to become a concept artist, or most other kinds of professional artist, for that matter. A degree isn't a bad thing, getting one can be a very, very good thing, but is it necessary? Absolutely not.


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    Degrees or certificates don't matter. They really don't. 4/5 times they look at your visual ability not your filing cabinet

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    I think it is fair to say that people who need concept artists will put more stock in your ability as a skillful artist than a diploma. There is a level in truth in that.

    However, before people rush down that route, I think they should consider a broader question: are you going to be a concept artist for life? For the next year? For the next ten? Just for starters, think of all the changes in the LAST 10 years? Facebook, social media, 3D Animation, the huge surge in video games and game design, etc., etc., etc. What about the next forty? Because of technology, globalization and everything else that is going on in this world, there will massive change. There will be highly profitable careers that exist 10 years from now that people can't even imagine right now. Will they require a degree? Will they require you to be analytical? Will they require you to communicate and write well? Will they require you to do research? What if you move up in an organization beyond Concept Artist? Art Director? Creative Director? Vice President? Your life changes. You may have kids. You may find new things you love in life, new passions, new challenges, and new directions. Will only study in the technical art skills of the moment be enough?

    While the production companies of today may only require art skills, life may require an education.

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    Also, where do you get concepts from? What inspires you? History? Literature? Science? Poetry? Politics? Psychology? College might serve you well in your endeavor to find concepts.

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