I have to say, early on just doing stuff for people makes it pretty hard for them to say no to giving you work to do. Do someone a demo website and theres a lot more chance theyll say yes to paying you to do a proper one, type thing..
I still do spec work now to be honest, if only art tests, because they can potentially unlock $$$$s of work..
but yeah approaching professional freelancers and expecting work for free, or sweat equity, is pretty shady. on the other hand, maybe one of those no money now but 14% of the company deals will pay out. i guess its about judging the cut of their gib and figruing out if theyre serious or just idiots.
Is there anyone that's actually good that works for free, though? It seems like a cheap way to get some cheap art, which isn't necessarily going to make your company look better...
Anyway, good rant.
I guess it depends, it's kinda gotten more sneaky with "promotional materials" some aren't so straight forward. Kind of like that Pay the Writer rant in the "Should I work for Free" sticky in the art forum. Get free interviews or something from an artist to go into the bonus materials of a DVD.
On another note. I really hate it when people make vertical videos D:
If you want to make artists really angry show them the article where a guy makes a tutorial for web designers on how to get free art out of artists and basically, well...mocks them for being gullible dumbasses.
Here's another good one posted by someone in the comments:
"Fuck You, Pay Me" by Mike Monteiro
Yes, perhaps the thread should be merged with that one Elwell. I see Ginseng already mentioned this video as a URL.
Last edited by Izi; January 30th, 2013 at 03:19 PM.
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Actually there are tons of amazing artists that work for free. It's called the comic book industry.
Yeah, but we own our shit. Working for yourself "for free" and working for someone else "for free" are different, because if you work for yourself you get to keep everything. Whether you can turn it into money later is a different problem, but at least you have that option.
Now -- comic book artists who do work-for-hire for free are dumb.
^This is true. I've been approached by writers that say "this is going to be a big hit and you get to work on it". I've learned to respond by asking "How much are you looking to invest?" and that's only if the script isn't a total quagmire. A good script is hard to come by.
I did have one small publisher offer $25 a page with an after cost royalty, I almost went for it until I wised up and asked for half up front So I could get started. He then had a sudden "financial situation"