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    how to develop my design skill? can anybody help?

    so i'am a student in graphic design, but i want to have a job in concept design for game, so what do i need for develop my design skill? what exercise do i need to take to design some concept? is it necessary to draw the subject from real life before i can designing something ?


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    Get the "Visual Literacy" book. That will teach you a lot about composition and conveying ideas.

    Yes, it is necessary to draw from real life. Where else would you learn how everything works and looks?

    There is no single "exercise" to take. Just learn to draw and paint. Real well.

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    go search for principles and elements of design. investigate those terms through experimentation, reading, looking at design stuff (usual suspects like cars, clothing, paintings, everyday tools, and such). should keep you busy for the next couple of centuries .

    and maybe do some of those... http://conceptart.org/forums/showthr...sitions-100-!! or similar.

    there i disagree with arenhaus... drawing stuff from real life might teach you something if it comes to design, but not neccessarily... first and foremost it just teaches you drawing from life. if youre about design, study design.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sone_one View Post
    there i disagree with arenhaus... drawing stuff from real life might teach you something if it comes to design, but not neccessarily... first and foremost it just teaches you drawing from life. if youre about design, study design.
    The guy said he wanted "concept design for games". That generally involves designing objects, characters, environments etc. - not some abstract design stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arenhaus View Post
    The guy said he wanted "concept design for games". That generally involves designing objects, characters, environments etc. - not some abstract design stuff.
    marketing piece -> [edit] might [/edit] need ability to draw and paint well if it comes to representational qualities (most of the time based on provided concepts).

    concept -> needs good design. ive seen so many beautifully rendered concept art pieces that completely lack on the design front. and ive seen alot of crudely drawn concepts that were really well designed and contained a lot of information.

    [edit] good design is good design (shapelanguage, rythmn, balance, etc) no matter if its 3d or 2d, used to inform an abstract composition, or a representational figure. you can draw from life all your life without remotely becoming a good designer. you cant spend 30 minutes studying design without becoming a better designer than you were. easy choice for me.
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    Scott Robertson's videos may be of help

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMokHIs27vk

    his reading list mentioned in video above

    http://drawthrough.blogspot.co.uk/20...-workshop.html

    edit to add

    http://char.txa.cornell.edu/language/introlan.htm

    A couple of sites that may help turn on the light switch.

    http://www.dezeen.com/
    http://www.diseno-art.com/
    http://www.core77.com/
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    Quote Originally Posted by skykeeper66 View Post
    so i'am a student in graphic design, but i want to have a job in concept design for game, so what do i need for develop my design skill?
    Switch your field of study to industrial design. The sooner the better.
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    sadly i don't have enough money...

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    @arenhaus thx bro , but when do i need to learn the design? do i have wait several month before i can design something?or i start doing design while i'am do some draw from real life?


    @sone_one i've learn that in my graphic design school about rhythm and composition in my first year in indonesia it's called "nirmana dwimatra"..
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    Watch all the Feng Zhu Design School videos and follow his advice.
    https://www.youtube.com/user/FZDSCHOOL

    Look for some Open Source games that need a concept artist so you can build experience and porfolio.
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    Start whenever you want, the sooner the better. No one can promise you'll be able to design it well at first, but if you don't try to design stuff, you won't learn to.

    In addition to being able to draw and paint, you'll need to know how and why things work. So you can design them to look like they do their job - ideally, so that they could actually do it. LoTR team made real swords, and Nolan's Batman reboot uses actual working Batmobile... and Cameron had a new type of hardhat diving helmet designed for "The Abyss", which is used in real practice now. These are the extremes, but that's also why they work so well visually: they are functional for real.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arenhaus View Post
    Get the "Visual Literacy" book. That will teach you a lot about composition and conveying ideas.
    Which one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by skykeeper66 View Post
    sadly i don't have enough money...
    Well, I don't know your situation of course but...graphic design and game concept design have about zero in common. And if you're in one field of study I don't see a big issue switching? Unless you're about done. One option would be to be the best graphic designer you can be and get started at a game company in their graphics department...once in the door work on your own time to develop your skills and awareness of what teams might need in the way of concept art...basically work your way into the job you want sideways.
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    having a graphic design education under my belt aswell, i wouldnt say it has zero to do with concepts for games, but certainly most of those graphic design (at least mine) educations are overrated and filled with alot of bs. any industrial design (or achitect) major seems to be better at transporting design knowledge.
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