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Thread: Avon's Sketchbook
August 18th, 2013 #31
Great to see you back again. And great progress! Your last image with the figure looking up is actually quite nice. If I can help, you are suffering bad in the same area as me, the head. Do some studies and you will put another nail in the coffin. Keep working hard!
I'm a peacock, you gotta let me fly!
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V3T: Thanks! Will do
So my internet was down yesterday so I couldnt post this WIP of a study. Did some more work on it but Photoshop crashed so I guess I'll save more often haha.
Schoolwork was eating up my time today so I couldnt keep working on this any further, will do tomorrow.
Also did some pencil ''studies'' if you will with gas masks as a subject so I'll do a little more of those before scanning
August 21st, 2013 #33
August 26th, 2013 #34
My internet has been pretty much out these past few days but hopefully its better now.
First some guys in armor with no ref that I thought turned out pretty good.
My faces need alot of work so I've been drawing more of them recently, still lost on eyes and hair so studies coming soon
And a mini character and some gas mask studies that failed for the most part haha.. elipses are hard
Last edited by Avon; September 6th, 2013 at 11:10 AM.
August 29th, 2013 #35
My internet has been out again but seems to be in at the moment so I scanned this real quick to upload.
A technician is coming tomorrow to fix the modem so more frequent uploads hopefully haha
Just a samurai type of character, need to study armor to get some interesting designs into my characters
Scans turn out so dirty somehow, I'll try and fix it in the next one
August 29th, 2013 #36
August 30th, 2013 #37
Kevin_ : Thanks, your pencils look amazing. More studies hopefully in the next few days
Some quick pencils today
They still scan so badly somehow, anyone else have this ''dirt'' problem with their scans?
Last edited by Avon; August 30th, 2013 at 09:23 PM.
August 31st, 2013 #38
Bad proportions - awesome, now you have something to work on. bad perspective- awesome, there's exercises for that. I found it helpful to work with box-men proportion / perspective combo.
It can also help to draw boxes over the masses, torso, pelvis, head - it will help your brain sort out the planes of the weirdy shapes.
for messy pencils, Col-erase are really good, the blue and red are great to work with, green is meh - the purple is a little gritty. Otherwise just using harder pencils will help if you find them a bit smudgy. Personally I like bic pens for drawing on the train / car - they have a good range in line weight - less smudgy, and you don't get tempted to erase. erasing just wastes time you could be sketching
Anyways- keep up with all the studies- they'll all add up
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August 31st, 2013 #39
Rhubix: Wow thanks for taking the time to write that!
Haha yeah I sometimes forget the point of starting the sketchbook at all which is to improve. Gonna try those box-men figures!
So here's a rough WIP of a character Im working on right now
Hopefully it will turn out to be the first finished piece I make
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Nice pencils you got there
September 2nd, 2013 #41
Bought a 0.3 mechanical pencil today and am going to try and step up my pencils, soo comfortable having it so thin and neat
Question: I feel that somehow using reference for my drawings is ''cheating'' and people say its the best thing you can do to improve to just draw and draw alot from reference, anyone had this feeling?
Anyway No ref on this one
Did this after watching a video by Marko Djurdjevic where talks about lines and pencils and such.
Last edited by Avon; September 2nd, 2013 at 03:39 PM.
September 2nd, 2013 #42
Tried to block in the basic color palette but the colors are way too saturated, doesn't really look too good yet but hopefully I'll be able to complete this one
Need to do way more work on this, slow progress is better than no progress I guess
Last edited by Avon; September 3rd, 2013 at 08:05 AM.
September 2nd, 2013 #43
If your doing studies, you can go nuts, everything short of tracing is good- and tracing is even good for checking your work.
The only time it's "cheating" is when it's plagiarism.
Reference is good.
Reference from life is better.
Having an attractive assistant with great anatomy that you can use for reference is best ;D
September 4th, 2013 #44
Rhubix : Ah that clears up alot of debates I have with myself haha. Thanks for replying to my question!
So I discovered I was grossly incompetent at painting faces especially female so the character piece is set on hold for the moment as I want to finish it rather than calling it unfinished and never touching it again.
Meanwhile, studies. Which will be posted up tomorrow. its 12 here and I still have some work to do on it D:
Anyway here's a WIP of the piece and as you can see I really havent made any drastic changes really, spent too much time just tweaking mostly unneccessary things and such.
September 5th, 2013 #45
Female portrait study that I didn't really finish properly, took longer than it should have and made many mistakes that I can benefit from and apply to future pieces I guess.
First portrait painting I've done as can be seen haha, more to come soon.
Last edited by Avon; September 5th, 2013 at 04:38 PM.
September 6th, 2013 #46
Hey! good job so far, you seem to apply yourself which is good, lot of stuff from imagination i like that.
However if you really want to push your drawings to the next level you MUST learn anatomy, i know it's something people are reluctant to do but it's the very important. Then you can apply it on ALL your drawings from imagination, isn't that awesome ? lol
So yeah really study from bridgman, loomis ect, it's great reference in there, and then try to draw from life with what you learned in mind you will see amazing improvement.
Another thing with your last portrait study (really good for the first one by the way) imo you just need to redraw her right eye (bigger and longer), the rest seems to fall into place correctly.
One last thing about your paintings, it's about something called consistent lighting. Your lighting is really approximate and don't always follow the shapes of the body. When you will have a better understanding of anatomy it should become more consistent but i figured since i am here i might as well point that out.
That's it hope it helped, i am not the most skilled artist out there but this is my little grain of salt.
Don't forget to have fun when you're drawing, don't force yourself too much ( a little is good, to go out of your comfort zone )
Take care and keep posting!
September 6th, 2013 #47
September 7th, 2013 #48Registered User
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Awesome portrait! Keep on posting
September 7th, 2013 #49
Keep doing those sketches, and consult some tutorials on the body.
I like that last face, really shows you are improving.
Check out my sketchbook!
September 7th, 2013 #50
Wow! Fourteen? I think your amazing, I've had students twice your age struggling to be were you are at now, so good job. Keep up your anatomy and life drawing it's paying off.
September 7th, 2013 #51
You probably want to be great as soon as possible, a mutual feeling but you've already improved since the beginning of the year. If you keep it up and continue with some of the hard stuff like anatomy and drawing/painting for life, I think in a couple of years you'll be amazed at where you've got to!
Keep at it!
September 7th, 2013 #52
Alex : Thanks for taking the time to write that
I'm planning on doing some anatomy studies soon,
I should already have done more of them since the improvement you notice right away is crazy, really should.
And I'm still a bit new to lighting and rendering so I guess I will tighten up my values and keep in mind to let it follow the form, thanks for that
Kevin: Thanks! My figures sometimes turn out a bit disproportionate and weird sometimes but that just means I have to do more, thanks for the advice And I am going to try to update daily but sometimes I have those days where nothing I do is good :/
Woodkid : Thanks!
Resistance Fox : Thanks!, My figures need a lot of work at the moment
Mike Butkus : Thank you so much! I'm such a big fan of your work and your comment made my week, even month!
Plan on buying your books when I get the funds
I'm 15 now this year if anyone was wondering
Bruce Yeah with all the amazing stuff on the internet I can just never improve fast enough for my standards haha.
Had a bad art day yesterday where I just could not seem to get anything right or looking the way I wanted so I could not update
So keeping on with the portrait studies, this one did not turn out well in my opinion, correct placement and alignment of features is something I struggle with but I learned alot
But you gotta make mistakes to improve
And the second thing is me messing around with some markers, not sure if its worth an upload but I can always take it down
September 8th, 2013 #53
Was at my friends house all day and did some sketching there and thought I'd put them here
Alot of proportion issues with them both but I'm trying to keep an eye out for those
Sorry for the crappy cellphone picture quality, proper update coming tomorrow
No-Ref obviously :/
September 9th, 2013 #54
September 10th, 2013 #55
Joe No problem! And thanks
Was planning to do some perspective studies and wasn't sure how to go about it and then I see your signature and all my problems are solved haha, read through it and its really awesome so thanks for posting!
So there was no update yesterday due to no time and some other lame excuses that shouldn't really be, but I had some really dry eyes yesterday and that hindered me from painting something worthy of posting last night
Had some schoolwork and some errands to run today but I managed to do this study.
Discovered I need to do some eye studies...also everything else studies..
Didn't bring it to the finished state I felt I could but its getting late here and I have school
Tomorrow looks like its going to be a busy day but I really feel like painting so I will make some time for that hopefully.
Need to work harder
Last edited by Avon; September 10th, 2013 at 05:29 PM.
September 10th, 2013 #56Registered User
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That portrait does totally not look straight into my soul.
Anyways, nice study!
September 11th, 2013 #57
This year turned to a major stepping stone for your ways of art and life in
general, you’ve started a sketchbook, your dedication has been refueled, your
drawing production started to flow like river under the snow. Graphite drawings
as your base started to build up a solid foundation, which will lead you through
your future mighty creations. Anatomy is not your enemy anymore, it’s your
best friend, you’ve started to handle the torso and the human muscles, like
an old blacksmith handles his sword. Stone and granite will be crushed
under your unstoppable will, your value understanding will grow as
you do more greyscale studies, day and night you will draw.
And in between you can paint. Keep on reflecting the
light toward the shadows, and be ready for
everything, I will be up here to
see the next big event.
September 12th, 2013 #58
Hey man you draw very well! You actually remind me of Miles_ when he first started at 14. If you work hard maybe you can be where he is now
If I had one or two pieces of advice it would be to firstly become obsessed with finishing things to the best of your ability. Often it seems you become satisfied and move onto the next thing. Which is fine we all have to do that sometimes. But after years of watching people blow past me in skill level, on of the things I've noticed about those seemingly "especially fast" learners is that they COMPLETED everything. Even if it took 50 hours. They did it until they couldn't anymore. You learn more this way, especially if you write down what you've learned as your doing it and after.
My second advice would be to leave photo studies of people (particularly famous peoples faces) until you have the basics of facial structure down. Study loomis, or any faces from life, EVEN your own. Photos tend to flatten things and can cause you to miss out on learning how to properly depict value changes in planes on the face. Also famous people faces case us to tend to focus on likeness. Which isn't a bad thing, but if you don't have your basics down it can hinder you. This advice comes from when I first started drawing and I find now it held me back. Also andrew loomis says this same thing in one of his books.
Overall I think you are stacked with talent, and that mixed with dedication will result in you getting what ever you want from this life.
KEEP ON POSTIN!
September 14th, 2013 #59
LtPlissken : Motivation explosion!
Thank you so much for writing that it really brightened my day and I really appreciate it!
Will stop by your sketchbook later on
GenomeKilla : Wow that means alot! Miles sketchbook is what showed me where hard work can take you and it really to put it dramatically changed my life
And about finishing things you are a 100% right on that, I'd been thinking about it myself how my work always somehow stays in a ''rough'' state and never really gets finished, am really going to step it up and work on that so thank you so much for mentioning that.
And about photo studies, I intend on starting to do self portraits as I've never done them before so you people better prepare for some awful faces!
Thanks for taking the time to write that I really appreciate that
So its been a busy couple of days with not enough drawing and some poor planning that led to having no time at all.
So I went to a concert with my parents in a church and I made my first try at drawing something from my point of view, its so fun but it looks horrible but its the best I could do in the 40 mins or so that I had haha. Desperate need for perspective studies.
Secondly is a rough WIP of a painting that I PLAN ON FINISHING AND NO EXCUSES(had to make it caps lock), it will take alot of time but so I want to finish it to the best of my ability.
Did a design sheet for it just to try out making those
Slight reference on the character, not sure if I should use some more just yet but it really helped just to google some images and then just close them and get back to the laying in the pose and such.
Sorry for the lack of updates, plan on being more regular and just taking aside more time everyday to draw.
Last edited by Avon; September 14th, 2013 at 08:00 PM.
September 15th, 2013 #60
Thank you for the visit! your drawing is getting better, i like the last post the women is in a great pose, maybe keep the moon fully bright then you can really darken her and avoid detailling her which means you can really make it into a really dark moody piece.