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    it looks amateurish

    I have good days and bad when it comes to drawing. Monday was in the latter category. This guy's face is giving me trouble because I can't seem to nail the "liveliness" or the realism. I can render, but i'm more worried about the structure of the face making sense and how to make it less flat. Advice?


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    1. Pick a clear light source.

    2. Figure out the falling shadow.

    3. Work from there.

    However, it won't work well until you 1) have the structure of the face down, 2) have a clear awareness of the form in space. You are ad-libbing an awful lot, you need to verify the proportions and perspective.

    As a technical tip: work with bigger brushes. You end up with a very haphazard scribbly texture, working the way you are, and it's probably not what you really want. Block in big things with big tools, leave tiny ones for tiny details.

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    What arehaus said - currently the shadow is in the middle of his face.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Spot View Post
    What arehaus said - currently the shadow is in the middle of his face.
    there's lighting on both sides of his face in a dark environment...

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    You're right -- if you have a light source on either side, it can run a line of shadow down the middle of the face. The usual visual cliche is a blue light on one side and red on the other and a shadow down the middle. Still cool after all these years. In monochrome, it's harder to pull off.

    What strikes me about his image is the hair: lots of little bitsy strokes. Here's James Gurney giving my favorite explanation of how to draw hair.

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    Just kept rendering and its looking better. Now the crits can really begin!

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    Attachment 1693626Might like the expression on his face in this one better.

    The hair is still just a sketch. It's last because it's easier to draw and can be done quickly.

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    you have some good form going on. Try to think more about the depth of things. For instance from that angle try to overlap the nose and the eye behind it to create depth. Also there is a thickness to the eye lids, and the facial hair. I also agree with with scratchy lines comment. especially in the hair, it looks more like fur.

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    It's looking much better man. Try to avoid painting the hair as you have. There is so many repetitive little shapes it's making it look like a plastic model of hair. Clump it together. The guy looks like a war vet or like a hostage negotiator. Like he looks older than than he should look like because of the life he's lived.

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