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    Little late to the starting line... PLEASE CRITIQUE!!

    I'm a bummy looking 22 year old student and just really starting at the art game. It is what I want to do with my life and I am going to work hard till I'm at par with the best so PLEASE help me get there. Be harsh and brutal with your critiques, I can take it and I want it.


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    Thank you in advance for any replies, they are helpful.

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    Hey Pusateap, welcome to CA, you're not alone, I'm 22 this year and trying to get into the game, we will both get there I promise. As for critique, I recommend cleaning up your lines. Can't wait to see more from you [=

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    Hi! Is never too late!

    Looking at the guy who is on his back on the floor, I sense that he is flat. And the one with the... Ballet, or stretching pose, the arms are too long. And since you asked about shoulders (a question that I also have), I'm studying Loomis and Bridgman for that!

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    It’s good to see that you aren’t afraid to try drawing different poses. Personally, I’d recommend looking at more basic poses in order to get a clearer idea of proportions etc. A mixture of photo reference and art books should definitely help!

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    The pose on the upper right's head doesn't seem to properly connect with the rest of the body. In other words, I concur with what Orali has said.

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    Thank you guys SO much! Right now I'm checking out Loomis and Bridgman and there is so much good information that its making jittery! Also poses, anyone know where I can find some? Found this interesting website: http://www.posemaniacs.com/, but would still like some others.

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    Heya! Welcome! I'm also 22 and just starting to get into the game now. We'll get there! Just keep posting.

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    http://lovecastle.org/draw/ for all your figure references.

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    Forearm notes and practice and a little bit of legs.

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    very nice start man and good luck with your goal keep up and you will improve thats for sure use the spine for aligning properly the big masses head torso pelvis i find it some times to start with the pelvis try it out it might help ya get some orientation on how the rest of the masses are aligning,other than that post moar

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    More arm doodles and a puffin. They make the silliest sounds.

    Also thank you guys for the help and input, it's awesome.

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    Late night hand and arm studies.


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    Hi and welcome!

    I suggest you try to do sketches and doodles on regular pen and paper as well, it helps to speed up the process and the understanding of shape and form.
    It's always recommended to create using more media than one. So make sure your digital drawing gets company of analog drawing! Keep it up!

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    great start man .....
    keep practicing and im sure you'll do fine
    do a lot more studies.. figure studies, 30-60 sec gestures, etc
    also take a little break every now and then from human figure and try to draw objects and environments so that when you come back to your preferred subject matter you will feel refreshed!
    keep up the good work!!

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    Here is my digital work (fun) for the day...

    Also thank you all for the advise. I will try to post some landscape and traditional stuff in the upcoming days.

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    You're not the only one ...I'm almost 30, and, while I've been drawing, I've been going about it the wrong way. I'm trying to re-learn some basics now.

    Anyway I found http://fav.me/d5rsbof and http://fav.me/d5rtqyu helpful. Maybe you will too.

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    No updates were had in the past few days due to traveling and running a half marathon with the family in Arizona. Wish I had more time to draw the landscape out there, it is captivating.

    Here is some of the odd doodles I did while I was out there.

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    Last night's studies and fun. Was cheap on the colors and used a watercolor brush... -_-'

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    Hey man,

    I'm just starting and have over ten years on you, so it's never too late! I suggest looking at drawingforce.com and/or the book to help you get past the sketchy-line phase. The whole drawing with force thing is a bit gimmicky to me, but I really dig the style and the lines are solid. Then check out Vilppu for pose and figure drawing. The main thing to get from him is the process and the fact that everything can be drawn with spheres, boxes, and cylinders. This will really help your drawings look more 3D. Hampton for anatomy, Scott Robertson for perspective and rendering, and find some info on color theory (don't have a great reference yet.) Having all of these references will help you focus on actually drawing vs searching for how to draw. Hope that helps!

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    @Nate Miller: Yeah, I've been meaning to address that issue of sketchiness I need to clarify on my drawings more and as for color theory I joined a painting class at my university (Painting 101 WOOT!) to hopefully improve.

    As for stuff drawn this is some of the junk I've made -_-'. I got a little hung up on a character I've had with me from the beginning of my drawing studies. Not too many gestures either, which I need to get on. Did study the face quite extensively.

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    Sorry for the ton of stuff.

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    K so here are some gestures done today... HOW DO I MAKE THESE BLOODY PICTURES SMALLER!!!

    Also need advice on gestures, Should I worry about the outline of the figure? The structure? The line quality?
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    The only advice I could give you right now is to try and build a confidence in your linework (advice that was give to me very recently), try to overcome 'petting' your lines... like going over the same line to make it bigger this video somewhat helped me out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhxcHFwDqa8.
    In saying that, I see a lot of improvement already! Your proportion studies are coming along really well!

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    @smrrfette (and NateMiller): The advice and video really helped. Did a little research and practice and I am trying to make more confident strokes.

    Extra gestures, trying more confident blocky style. It is so hard to fight the urge to be scribbly and go over my line work multiple times.
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    Also did a little fun work with the style and method change, might come back to it.
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    This is a nice start, I wish you good luck on your art journey! Confident strokes in your gestures are good, ones of varying thickness to indicate the weight of the figure would be even better. My preference in doing studies, especially linear or anatomical ones, is to do them traditionally. In my experience, knowledge is much easier translated from traditional to digital than the other way around. But if you have a strong inclination towards digital and you put in the mileage, it doesn't matter so much. Work hard, work smart.

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    Good updates! You look like you're having fun haha. Your stuff is already looking better too. Someone already mentioned them, but for gestures, Vilppu and Hampton are really good. If you look at Hampton, really pay attention to the starting chapters and read what he says. He gives a lot of good insight on how to capture the story of the pose. While short gestures are good, try mixing 'em up with longer poses. Another thing you might want to do is work from life. Maybe even do some value studies of still lifes before you dive deeply into color.

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    @The Pariano: I think I will try traditional a little more, it probably would be faster. Also looking at making my own vine charcoal for the thick lines. Have a crazy prof. who said he show me how he does it.

    @eroquii: I haven't had time to look at Vilppu or Hampton, just Loomis, Bridgeman and Peck. I'm a bit of a knowledge junkie so those will be next on my list. I'll post some longer studies here soon.

    Haven't updated in a while because.... reasons...

    BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN I STOPPED!
    On the contrary I have working alot in tradition oil paints in the universities studio.
    This picture, though not an assignment or anatomically correct was fun to do. It was with the left over paint on my pallet, I always hate to see all that expensive paint go to waste, and it is good practice.
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    Speaking of anatomy also a new butt after some study between school and work.
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    Dude, you sure have the guts for it. Keep those drawings coming!! hehe I can totally tell you're enjoying yourself back to those strokes in blank pages! That's the very basis of it, I assure you. ^^

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    Good stuff! Keep up the anatomy studies. I need to do some, too. Definitely seeing some improvement in your work already.

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    Thanks for the replies!

    Still hard at work (or hardly working?). Here is some painting stuff I've done.
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