How to use off page vanishing points?
Join the #1 Art Workshop - LevelUpJoin Premium Art Workshop

Results 1 to 10 of 10
  1. #1
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Posts
    38
    Thanks
    8
    Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0

    How to use off page vanishing points?

    Now that I look at it I really should of bent the table sides more to a point. I've been trying out perspective but not really getting it I ended up just eyeballing it. Anyway say the table is eventually going to meet a vanishing point, how would I draw this in accurate perspective at this angle? If the vanishing point is somewhere far far off into space? I mean several yard sticks taped together off page sounds a little inefficient.

    I wasn't sure whether to post this here or in my sketchbook, mark it up with all the red marker you can
    Thanks,
    Attachment 1660728

    Attached Images Attached Images  
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  2. #2
    dpaint's Avatar
    dpaint is offline Registered User Level 16 Gladiator: Spartacus' Retiarii
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    Virginia
    Posts
    4,655
    Thanks
    2,626
    Thanked 5,883 Times in 2,355 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  3. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to dpaint For This Useful Post:


  4. #3
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    Toronto, Ontario
    Posts
    1,148
    Thanks
    9
    Thanked 400 Times in 274 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    You know how to do it, you're not doing it, and you want me to do it for you?

    Grinnikend door het leven...
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  5. #4
    dpaint's Avatar
    dpaint is offline Registered User Level 16 Gladiator: Spartacus' Retiarii
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    Virginia
    Posts
    4,655
    Thanks
    2,626
    Thanked 5,883 Times in 2,355 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    This is an easy way to do it

    Name:  loomis_perspective_grid.jpg
Views: 414
Size:  198.5 KB

    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  6. The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to dpaint For This Useful Post:


  7. #5
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Posts
    38
    Thanks
    8
    Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    Oh wow This looks great I didn't know about these at all I'm still trying to completely wrap my head around it though in terms of close up objects like this table, how exactly would I use it? I can see the application with farther objects, would I align it with the lower angle of the table and then use that angle for the rest of the piece? am I making sense? I''m just starting with perspective and it's still kind of messing with my head ^^;

    Quote Originally Posted by aerisaxia View Post
    I've been trying out perspective but not really getting it I ended up just eyeballing it.
    Attachment 1660728
    No, as in I'm trying it, failing at it, and asking for help, so I can keep trying.

    Last edited by aerisaxia; December 15th, 2012 at 12:02 AM.
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  8. #6
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    New York, USA
    Posts
    2,337
    Thanks
    1,074
    Thanked 2,199 Times in 1,055 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    So this centrolinead... Apparently nobody actually sells them? Or am I looking in all the wrong places? >:T

    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  9. #7
    dpaint's Avatar
    dpaint is offline Registered User Level 16 Gladiator: Spartacus' Retiarii
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    Virginia
    Posts
    4,655
    Thanks
    2,626
    Thanked 5,883 Times in 2,355 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by QueenGwenevere View Post
    So this centrolinead... Apparently nobody actually sells them? Or am I looking in all the wrong places? >:T
    Yeah, I think they quit making them probably 60 or 70 years ago. I think Jim explains how to make one though.

    Looks like some people are building them
    http://www.studiognarly.com/?v=Pages...-Centrolineads

    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  10. #8
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    New York, USA
    Posts
    2,337
    Thanks
    1,074
    Thanked 2,199 Times in 1,055 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    Well, dang. I did see some patterns, but unless I can figure out a way to make them using cardboard and masking tape and zero crafty skills, it looks a bit beyond my current skill-and-tool limitations... (Unless I have a ton of time to kill sometime in the distant future...)

    Maybe I can get my Dad to make one. Hmm.

    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  11. #9
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Location
    Haifa, Israel
    Posts
    3,855
    Thanks
    2,297
    Thanked 2,234 Times in 1,354 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    That, or you could simply use a long ruler, plus a long table (or a wall, or the floor...) and some thumb tacks for the out-of-the-page VPs. Attach the thumb tacks upside down with some adhesive tape - then you can rest the ruler on its stem and you'll get an instant set of parallels to that VP.

    This is quicker than calculating indirect VPs, but depends on how much space you have.

    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

  12. #10
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Posts
    18
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 20 Times in 7 Posts
    Follows
    0
    Following
    0
    Of late, I've taken to scanning my roughs and then just drawing out the major lines in Photoshop. Then I print out the lines, and work over it and eyeball anything else if needed. Even if you don't print the lines out to work off them, drawing it out in Photoshop is an easy way to test and change vanishing points to give an idea of how you want things to look on paper or where you might be going wrong.

    When I was working only on paper, I would put the paper to the furtherest side of the table (laying it perfectly on the edge so I can repeat at any time), then rule off one set of lines, marking the VP with masking tape. Then I would take the further to the opposite side of the table and do the same with the other lines. It seems like it would be a great nuisance, moving the the paper like this, but it's not. And a lot of the times I'd think that the table wasn't big enough to contain all VPs but usually, to my surprise, it was.

    Last edited by Grosby; December 15th, 2012 at 04:04 AM.
    Reply With Quote Reply With Quote  

Members who have read this thread: 2

Tags for this Thread

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •