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July 6th, 2004 #1
Grinn's Watts Sketchbook (Update after nearly 3 years)
Hello, I have been watching these daily sketchbooks for awhile, and inspired mostly by mindcandyman's insane consistancy, I decided I should make one of these for my new adventures at Watts Atelier in Encinitas CA. I know there are a lot of other Watts students on here with sketchbooks, my work doesnt even compare to theirs yet, but I hope that this will help me see my progress.
Today was my first day at Watts, I got home about 2 hours ago (long drive home). Thought I would take some pictures of all the work I did today and post it up.
Monday: Hands Feet and Drapery with Erik Gist
The first class of the day, I arrived well over an hour early after horribly misjudging the amount of time it would take me to get down there...(i forgot how few people would be going into work today), but luckily Erik was there pretty early too and I got to bug him for awhile before the class started.
Just sketches from the skeleton and the cast hand. Also Erik drew part of a skeletal finger on the sheet in the middle (the not messy one)..and that little guy in the center.
Monday: Figure drawing with Erik Gist and Mark Hill
5 Minute sketches to warm up.
Then the drawing we did for the rest of the class after the demos. Erik helped me make some big corrections...I had her not leaning anywhere near enough in the begining.
Monday: Head Drawing with Erik Gist and Mark Hill
Haha, these are kind of embarrassing...but I have decided to post everything that I do. So get used to it.
I am fairly proud of this. It actualy looked better at one point. But I 'finished' a little early and kept trying to improve it..but only made it look worse and worse. Thems the breaks. I have a lot to learn about using the charcoal, today was my first time ever using it...and it sure is hard for me to keep it clean. Though that is kind of how I am with most mediums. Hopefully that will change.
Overall I had a really great first day. I got to meet dzu who happened to be in my hands feet and drapery class...though I didnt find out who he was until after the class when I saw him in the art store nearby. He was all helpful with the locating..of the razor blades. And though the drive down there was long, and the drive back up was long, and it cost me a fortune on gas...it was well beyond well worth it. Ahhh, I am tired. If anyone is interested the next update will probably be on Saturday or Sunday since thats when my next classes are. Maybe I will upload some digital stuff..or some other charcoal stuff I do during the week for practice. I am still deciding whether or not I want this Daily Sketchbook to be specific to the work I do at Watts or just my work in general.
Last edited by grinn; June 10th, 2010 at 10:11 PM.
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cool man, good work. I'll be starting at Watts next quarter? Do they call them quarters? well, whenever the late Sept early Oct session starts, that'll be my beginnings there. I'm sure I'll be seeing you around. Best of luck with your studies, I'll be checking in!
I self-published a book on the fundamentals of drawing from life.
July 6th, 2004 #3
I think they call them sessions. Though I heard a lot of people saying semesters yesterday. It will be awesome to see you there, I still remember your face from the workshop. I was that hairy guy with the yellow hat. Though I have shaved and cut my hair now.
Last edited by grinn; July 8th, 2004 at 04:36 AM. Reason: i r suck at speling
July 13th, 2004 #4
Alright here is my work from Saturday 7-10-04
Figure Drawing Class with Erik Gist:
Ahh ok these are horrible.
20 minutes. Didnt even come close to finishing...might edit out the really unfinished at all images later...but for now I want to post everything that I do there. So you can see the good and the bad.
20 minutes. Also not spectacular.
20 minutes. Improving slightly.
Figure Drawing class with Ron Lemen:
Much better than my last set of quick sketches but still pretty bad.
20 minutes. Ahh at least the proportions are good.
20 minutes. Ok this, I had some help on..in the ...uhh breast area. Thank you Mr. Lemen on clarifying exactly how to handle that smoothly.
20 minutes. I actualy like this one best because I think it had the most potential. But ahh I barely got anywhere on it.
20 minutes. We might as well finish it off with something not so good.
That is all of the work from Saturday. I will post the work from today (Monday) next.
Last edited by grinn; July 30th, 2007 at 05:33 AM.
July 13th, 2004 #5
Hands Feet and Drapery with Erik Gist:
I did have some help with the hand in the upper right. I was using too many rounded edges and not enough straights, Erik really helped me a lot. The bottom two hands belong to Dzu (on the left) and Erik (on the right)...they were kind enough to model their beautiful hands. You can click here to see a larger version.
Figure Drawing with Erik Gist and Mark Hill:
I am begining to think quick sketches are my biggest weakness right now.
This we worked on for the rest of the class. I should have taken it to a further level of completion but I was so scared to lay in value for so long that I delayed and didnt get it to where I wanted it. You can click here for a larger version.
Head Drawing with Erik Gist and Mark Hill:
More terrible quick sketches.
And the portrait we worked on for the rest of the period. against I didnt take it to where I should have. But I started getting frustrated and destroying it like I did with the portrait in that class a week before. You can click here to see a larger version.
Thats it for tonight. Any thoughts or feedback is appreciated. Thanks!
Last edited by grinn; July 30th, 2007 at 05:30 AM. Reason: fixing links
July 13th, 2004 #6
how satisfied are you with Watts so far? studies lookin good, lookin forward to see where you go in the next few months.
I self-published a book on the fundamentals of drawing from life.
July 13th, 2004 #7
Watts is awesome. Best school I have ever been to for anything. I have learned so much in just 3 days that it's crazy.
July 19th, 2004 #8Registered User
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Good stuff grinn. Cool that you could make it to the school. Some things I'd say to keep in mind when taking classes at Watts is try and stay light with the drawing, everyone gets heavy handed at first especially when learning all this new material but by learning to go light and build things up slowly it will benefit you all the more in the long run.
Proportions are getting stronger in your poses, I'd say to try and pick a focus for this term. Like maybe proportions and lay-ins. Value is very important but try not to get too caught up in the beginning with every little value up there. If you do get to value remember to squint your eyes and look for the big graphic light and dark shape. Then as you get more comfortable, we will start to chip away at that big graphic shape to find halftones and plane changes.
Always think simple shapes. The head is whistle shape, the arm is a cylinder, the torso is a tube. Keeping these simple shapes in mind, they will help you get proportions and the figure down without worrying too much about every little bump and undulation. Once you start to get a better grasp of anatomy then that's when to start pushing what you know oin the drawing.
Also, quick sketches are a bitch. You hate them at first, but later on when you find your groove you'll start to like it more. An acquired taste in a way.
Keep going and keep posting these, its great to see progress. See ya in class sometime.
September 5th, 2004 #9
Alright, well I havent had a whole lot of time to update lately (...too busy being lazy) and to save energy and time I am not going to post most of the work anymore..just some select stuff from my classes so you can see some progress.
Starting with some feet studies:
Some drapery studies.
Some figure drawings
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Alright, I got help obviously on some of this work, I dont have time or the memory to say exactly where I got help. But I will say the spiral fold on the first drapery studies is entirely Erik Gist's work. And looking back over the drawings just posted..I should definately note that Lucas Graciano helped me clean up the face in the first of the figure drawings.
Let me know what you guys think.
Last edited by grinn; July 30th, 2007 at 05:31 AM.
September 12th, 2004 #10Registered User
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Great job! I can see a huge difference between when you first started and your last update. In your opinion, what helped you the most this past semester? Are you coming back next semester and if so, what classes are you going to take?
September 12th, 2004 #11
Thank you Dzu. I mostly just kept trying to replicate the way Erik was producing his drawings.
Yes I am coming back next semester, I believe I will be taking 4 classes, two on wednesday and two on thursday. Figure Drawing followed by cast drawing on wednesday and then head figure quicksketch followed by oil painting fundamentals on thursday. That might all change around a bit though.
Last edited by grinn; July 27th, 2007 at 02:54 AM.
July 30th, 2007 #12
Well, its been awhile I guess. I started at Watts Atelier 3 years ago this month. I have missed a few quarters in there for various reasons, but I am living in San Diego now and attending full time.
I don't even know if this is appropriate for this forum anymore, but this is where all of the old Watts guys used to post their work. I have been browsing the CA forums again lately and thought I might update my old sketchbook here with some newer stuff.
So here we go, I have since started painting and taking some longer drawing classes. You might as well just assume I had help on everything I post because chances are I did, sometimes a significant amount.
3 hour charcoal (from life)
3 hour draped figure study in charcoal (from life)
2, 3, and 5 minute quicksketches
15 hour portrait in graphite (from life) I would really like to go back and finish this someday.
9 hour graphite (from life)
Some faster charcoal drawings (from life)
A tonal composition study for a large illustration I someday wish to complete.
A color study from photo reference.
Outdoor portrait (from life) The wind knocked this over onto my palette after I lifted the clasp on the easel. I am a smart man.
3 hour portrait (from life)
The following three are 20 minutes in graphite from life
40 minutes in graphite from life
Some digital stuff from last year. The first three are studies from screen captures of Lord of the Rings and Kingdom of Heaven, the next two are digital studies from life. They are all three hours.
6 hour portrait in oil from life
12 hour portrait in graphite (mostly from life, some from photo)
Anyways, I have really enjoyed my time at Watts. I don't plan on leaving anytime soon either. Right now, I am trying to work on finishing things, as I have been struggling with completing drawings for a long time. Hopefully that will change and I will have more work to post.
Last edited by grinn; July 30th, 2007 at 06:13 AM.
September 2nd, 2007 #13
All your latest work is Nicely crafted! The 9 hour graphite - Wow! And the 3 hour portrait oil painting -The colors are gorgeous! This is why I wanted to get some direction from the most talented Erik. I need to know how to choose the finsh of edges and value control to complete a "painting" in charcoal. You guys kick boot with your drawings.