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    Wings problem

    The wings are bothering me something aweful on this sketch. I just can't seem to make them feel 'attached'. Also I think the nose might be too long. Any tips or red lining are more then welcomed

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    The nose doesn't bother me, although his head is tiny. The wings don't feel attached because you aren't conceptualizing them in 3D. You don't understand their anatomy and how they attach to his back, so of course you can't explain it to the viewer. Before you get all caught up in the details of the feathers, work out the structure.


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    They're just coming off the deltoids as tangents...making them completely flat and in no way connected anatomically to the character. Are they metaphorical? As in he has the feeling his arms are wings sometimes? Or are they physically functional? If functional they have to operate as a second set of "arms" tying into the back/scapula/deltoid/ribcage structure in some manner.

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    Wings on non-winged creatures are always problematical. Basically, wings are arms. So if you want wings AND arms, you have to solve the four-armed human equation (one of fantasy art's tougher challenges).

    People have been drawing and painting angels for a couple of millenia, of course, but most solve the problem by stylization, and just sort of vaguely indicating that the wings stick out of the back somehow. What you're doing here is an up-close, naturalistic portrait, so...difficult brief.

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    I think essentially the problem is that we see the man kind of at a 45 degree angle, in 3/4 view, but we see the wings straight on, no angle. Sorry but it seems like you'll have to redraw them.

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    i dont think you have to redraw him (and hes really well drawn btw!)
    i agree that its because youre not thinking about the 3d form of the wings or how they would actually attach to him, if he were real
    here are some example of eagles to take a look at their wings as an example. i did a quick sketch to show how they might attach. just an idea!
    you can do a google search for bird skeletons to get some inspiration / ideas as to how to think about attaching them.

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    Thank you so much everyone ^^

    Will keep trying to get them right and make the head a bit larger. I do want to paint this in the end but I want to also do the best I can.

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