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    Who is this artist

    My mother has had this painting for most of my life and I'd like to know a little more about the artist. The picture is over 4 feet high.

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    Bonus question is this print. My brother would like to know who it was painted by.

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    I didn't think it was possible to be called an artist when you have nothing to say. It's like being a writer who publishes individual words as books and expects to be praised for it.
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    The landscape is by Clive Madgwick.

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    For the first, the best bet is to get someone who reads Chinese, as the text you photo'd always says the artist's name (and the Chinese calendar year it was made on and where), as should the stamp under/next to it at least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dpaint View Post
    This looks similar to the first one

    http://www.zazzle.co.uk/bees_and_ros...59854933835234
    That looks very crude compared to mine. This was bought in the early 60s in Malaysia.


    Quote Originally Posted by TinyBird View Post
    For the first, the best bet is to get someone who reads Chinese, as the text you photo'd always says the artist's name (and the Chinese calendar year it was made on and where), as should the stamp under/next to it at least.
    I might try that. I have an old friend from Singapore who could if it's in Mandarin.


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    The landscape is by Clive Madgwick.
    Thank you. I can't find the exact picture, but I can see the style is very similar. If you know the title as well, I'd be grateful.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Spot View Post
    Thank you. I can't find the exact picture, but I can see the style is very similar. If you know the title as well, I'd be grateful.
    It's called "Brandon Mill"

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    With the Chinese Peony painting, the best my Chinese friends could come up with is "Huang" for the surname and the rest is too stylised to read. Knowing it is Huang isn't helpful as it is one of the most common surnames in China. I think you might need to ask someone that studies art history or something to read those characters.

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    Could it be that the first one is just a long lost streetartist.

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    Well I posted on reddit - looks like I need a better picture.

    It's very pretty and done nicely. I'd rather it wasn't by anyone famous as it might then have to be sold and I want to keep it.


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    Someone suggested Lin Jia, 1874-1939, but the seals are completely different. I don't think it's top bracket, but I'm, still curious. My friend from Singapore is going to ask another friend as that's not her dialect - she only reads Mandarin.

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    Another one. Again not top drawer, but it travelled the world with us and was chosen by my Dad, who didn't have an artistic streak in him, bless. Late 1970s, acrylic on canvas. It was rolled up and professionally mounted back in the UK. I can't read the signature, but I don't expect the artist to be well known. The picture changes depending on the weather outside, my kid brother is keeping this one as well as the etchings (rats), which I haven't taken photos of yet. Funny how it's only when you get the pictures you grew up with that you really want to find out more about them. I know all about the Snelling water colour as I gave it to my mother, and the limited edition prints by Vernon Hurford.

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    The signature on the boat picture looks like "Derwin" to me, but that's a wild guess...

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    Er, Black Spot, you shouldn't be using the seals as reference. Those can be put on by just about anyone (with money) after the painting is out on the market.

    On that note, the characters do look oddly...Simplified to me. I'll see about having a parent take a look at it when they have the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Falchion View Post
    Er, Black Spot, you shouldn't be using the seals as reference. Those can be put on by just about anyone (with money) after the painting is out on the market.
    what do you mean put on by someone with money? unless it's a famous name, i can't see why anyone would bother to forge an artists stamp...?
    anyway, it's not like there's much else to go on... presumably the text is just some poetry.

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    The bee and flower painting:
    To my eye it isn't a particularly fine example, but there is a certain calligraphesque (?) verve to the strokes at the bottom. But the leaf shapes at the top are kind of blunt and don't show mastery of pressure or direction in the brushstroke.

    You can buy paintings of that quality unframed for $5 bucks a pop in any city in China. They are churned out in workshops and sold to tourists and restaurants.

    Not trying to belittle your painting, it's a nice object on the wall, and gives you pleasure so it's all good. I wouldn't worry about suddenly discovering it is a master work and having to sell it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atreides View Post
    The bee and flower painting:
    To my eye it isn't a particularly fine example, but there is a certain calligraphesque (?) verve to the strokes at the bottom. But the leaf shapes at the top are kind of blunt and don't show mastery of pressure or direction in the brushstroke.
    Yeah- the thing that really stands out for me with this painting is the calligraphic writing. Thats really nice

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kea View Post
    what do you mean put on by someone with money? unless it's a famous name, i can't see why anyone would bother to forge an artists stamp...?
    anyway, it's not like there's much else to go on... presumably the text is just some poetry.
    Those seals aren't put there by the artist unless they've got a pretty solid reputation. Now, the patron who commissioned the piece? His seal goes on there. As does anyone who bought the piece and really wanted to literally leave their mark on it, hence, "with money."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Falchion View Post
    Those seals aren't put there by the artist unless they've got a pretty solid reputation. Now, the patron who commissioned the piece? His seal goes on there. As does anyone who bought the piece and really wanted to literally leave their mark on it, hence, "with money."
    but... I've seen artists in market stalls put their own seals on. I've seen artists who only even do calligraphy putting their seals on. even hobbyists... O.o from what I've seen every man and his dog has his own seal, it's not reserved for high status at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kea View Post
    but... I've seen artists in market stalls put their own seals on. I've seen artists who only even do calligraphy putting their seals on. even hobbyists... O.o from what I've seen every man and his dog has his own seal, it's not reserved for high status at all.
    *Pulls out his rocking chair and mint julep*

    But that's how it used to be. Back when it was a sign of class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Falchion View Post
    *Pulls out his rocking chair and mint julep*

    But that's how it used to be. Back when it was a sign of class.
    Ah the good ole days. lol

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    Hello,

    I have two puzzling candidates here, too. I bought both drawings very cheaply, 4 euros each, at an antique book and art dealer in Florence, Italy in 2009, because they looked really nice and like 300 years old.
    But maybe they're just good fakes and no older than fifty years. The price certainly speaks for that. What do you think?

    Scanned in 300dpi here (big files!)

    Drawing One

    Drawing Two

    I wish Eric Hebborn was still alive. He'd be able to tell. Hell, maybe he did these!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maidith View Post
    I have two puzzling candidates here, too.
    hmm. after much consideration,

    I attribute both drawings to...

    Rembrandt Van Rijn.

    nah jk, not a clue.

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