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    mogando25 you are trying to pick apart my "me" page on ebay. Instead of quoting just a line or two, why not reveal the entire page...This page is accessable by anyone who visits any auction page listed by me. I do have an ebay account and it did use to be my husbands. I also used to work full time outside of home and by selling children's clothing on Ebay I am able to make enough money a month to pay my mortgage. I don't know, it is pretty easy way to pay the bills and I'm sure if most of you could make easy money so you could spend more time with what you love (in your case creating your art) rather than spending most your time working, you would chose the easy money too. I chose it so I can spend more time with my daughter, maybe when mogando25 grows up and has a family of his own, he then can appreciate why I have chosen to do this. With all the freaks in this world, I would rather "raise" my daughter than some nanny that will beat her for looking at them the wrong way or treat her innappropriately.

    Caustic, you are right about the comment I made off the top, I being the parent think my kid's art is the cat's meow. I got my back up and made a comment that was innappropriate. Intern, I apologize to you for that.

    It's funny, when I first put the post in, I was doing it cause I was so excited about my daughter being successful in selling her first painting. I still believe she is incredibly talented and I was expecting criticism but not about me being a parent. Holy cow! I thought I would get more constructive criticism regarding the art (ie the technique, shading, colors, etc). But who was I to know.

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    otis your illustrations are incredible. I especially love #9. I would never get tired of looking at it.

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    Thank You Otis!

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    Good work for a 10 year old, nice composition. My work was crap when I was 10.

    Of course this would make an amusing scam. You wouldn't even need a real daughter just a picture outta a Sears catalog. I wonder how many you could guilt people into buying

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    Quote Originally Posted by quagmire36
    OR Maybe you are just jealous that she has more talent than you.
    Here's a painting I did when I was 11.



    I think your daughter just got an artistic ass whupping.

    I self-published a book on the fundamentals of drawing from life.

    http://www.amazon.com/Fundamentals-D...8951905&sr=8-1

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    I apologized for that comment. But I guess some people can't let it go....grow up already! The comment quoted wasn't even directed at you to begin with.

    Quote Originally Posted by quagmire36
    Caustic, you are right about the comment I made off the top, I being the parent think my kid's art is the cat's meow. I got my back up and made a comment that was innappropriate. Intern, I apologize to you for that.


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    Here's a picture she drew and painted in grade 2 (7yrs old). It is a winter scene. Sorry my camera isn't the greatest.
    <img src="http://www.sellersourcebook.net/members/watch/userimages/1390/000_1336.jpg">
    and a animation she drew this year for a book report on Silverwing by Kenneth Oppal. This character is from the cartoon that she watches. It is not available in a book style todate, it can only be viewed on the tv.

    She does have the ability to take a picture and draw it almost identically but increasing the scale to a larger picture.

    <img src="http://www.sellersourcebook.net/members/watch/userimages/1390/000_1337.jpg">

    Say what you want, I still think she is incredibly talented.

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    I'm only joking. I couldn't resist.

    I mean, we're talking about kids here!

    again, good for your daughter.

    I self-published a book on the fundamentals of drawing from life.

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    i'm sorry jetpack42, i've been flamed so much I'm not sure what is a joke or not. If you truly painted that when you were 11 that is a very good picture. However if you just painted it when you're 22 that is another story....just kidding also. It's a great picture.

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    its cool, no hard feelings. Things don't always come across clear on the net.

    I'm full of most of the time.

    I self-published a book on the fundamentals of drawing from life.

    http://www.amazon.com/Fundamentals-D...8951905&sr=8-1

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    I just realized the html doesn't work here

    These are the pictures again





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    How long did it take you to sell?
    Its inspired me to sell some of my stuff, need a new computer real bad!

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    You know, this happened last time someone posted abstract as well. If you hadn't mentioned age I'm pretty sure nobody would have realised.

    Personally I'm not a fan of abstract either, but I think what your daughter's done is quite good. The second and third pictures were more what I would expect from someone her age, but she used the paint as if she knew what she was doing rather than just slapping it on.

    As for the selling of it, if she was the one who wanted to sell it I cant see why that's a problem. Even if it wasn't going to charity (which is very generous for a 10 year old) she wanted to fund her interest herself. That's not greed, as someone said, that's just trying to be responsible

    Oh, and as for linking the About Me, what was the point in that? Did you expect the kid to have her own ebay account? Of course she's going through her parents account

    Anyway, sorry you got hassled about this. We just dont get much abstract here and obviously some people dont appreciate the fact it is art, whether they like it or not

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    We put it on a 7 day auction & it was paid for within hours of the auction ending. And the auction ended at $55 US.

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    see, i think its pretty cool
    abstract, stick figures..whatever the kids drawing/painting...good on her! and the fact that you can sell them is even better. this banter about making art for money being bad...well bollocks to that crap...its what 99.99% of the people on this very forum WANT to do in first place, might as well start early!
    id be proud too :dance:

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    Of course, we all want to make money from our art, only because we can make art as a career. If we don't become artists by profession, then we'd end up doing something really boring, like an accountant....bleh!

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    Great of you to be supportive, but do not forget to be critical...even in the eary ages...I remember the huge crush it was for me when my parents started giving me real crits, which i never had gotten before... Just a thought anyway.

    Anyhow, on the art I was very spirised..it looks very good :clapping2

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    i like that painting, i especially like the way you presented it with a photo from each side, if it was framed i could see it hanging in one of those stores that sell modern art.. the black outlines make it look a bit like stained glass window.. i have to admit i kind of wish they had ebay when i was a kid.. maybe she'll be the tiger woods of the art world..

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    After seeing this thread resurfacing over and over, I thought I would add my 2cents.

    My son is an artist, in every sense of the word. He is going to be 11 this August. He draws al the time, even wakes up in the middle of the night to sketch an idea he has. He shoots movies with his friends; coreographing fight scenes, dialog the whole works. He does all of this without me ever telling him what to do, when to do it, or how to do it. when he wants to know something he comes to me and asks and I show him, and offer criticism without holding back. It's tough for me to be honest with my critiques, because he's my little dude; but I know it will benefit him more in the long run. Especially since he actually makes the effort to change wihtout whining about it. He asked me once if he could draw something and try to sell it. I asked him if someone asked for a finished piece, or is he drawing it to try and make the $$. he said he just wanted to draw it to make the cash. I said no, he had to work harder at improving his skills. But if one of his buddies wants to buy a picture from him that he's already done, then fine. I'm not saying that letting him sell his work is wrong just drawing something for the sake of making the cash, is. I believe as the father of my kid, I am doing the right thing here. Long term. He will be happier with his art and himself.

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    I love the paintings Guagmire

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    That's good for abstract art. Well anything is, but she has some talent for more traditional art. Personally I hope she pursues that, because I have no love for abstractism as art. It can look nice but i feel it demeans other art forms.

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    Decorative art

    I appreciate many forms of art. But how many poeple here are starting to notice that contemporary or abstract art is turning into just decorative art?FYI, decorative art is the boring shit people throw up on their walls to "match" the colors of a room, or to compliment a "theme". IMHOP Art is supposed to be the focus of a room..not to "blend into" it!

    I actually saw one of the home improvment shows where the designer needed some quick, and big art for a wall. All he did was buy a canvas, a roller, some paint, and roled 3 colors on it that complimented his room.. it took 3 minutes.

    Is this what art has become to interior designers and the public? This is why I HATE decorative art.

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    My God... The lack of appreciation in other mediums of art on this forum is quite sobering...
    Everyone's so focused on trying to improve, yet so many see little improvement... It's no wonder, with so many narrow-minded individuals how can you expect to be anything other than the "rednecks" of artists constantly 'inbreeding' your tallents... Practicing your craft based on the same 3 heroes that are all within the same genre in the first place.

    Abstract art is just like any other medium(just like Concept Design, Film, Architecture, etc.), 95% of it is comprised of complete and utter crap.... but a good 5% of a given medium is amazing, worthy of new artistic movements.

    Take Kandinsky for example, the man was so focused in his work (and yes he could paint from life quite well) that he researched harmonic resonances so deeply he broke them down scientifically into colors and compositions into shapes.... his more abstract work was trying to capture actual musicle compositions into 2d:


    Brancusi's passion for form and thorough design went into his creation of 'Bird in Space'... The form was realized so well that when it was displayed in America the US government confiscated it at the delivery thinking that it was a future German prototype propeller design:


    Mondrian spearheaded the De Stijl movement (we use his forms and composition study in today's graphic design and architecture) completely dedicated to his religiouse beliefs... He used no straigh-edges because he wanted to show how man strives to be perfect but is imperfect in nature:


    Rietveld was so inspired by Mondrian's De Stijl that he catered his architecture to it, he created the Schroder House as an example of De Stijl construction:


    Le Corbusier grew up inspired by Mondrian, he created the Villa Savoye 1928... A weekend house for a wealthy family that wanted to capture the forms of their favorite past time, pleasure cruises... It was simple with nothing ornate, and it was perfectly contructed to the sun to take advantage of all light:



    ...Just like Craig Mullins, Ryan Church, and others these are some of the other artists that I find just as inspirational.... All it takes is a little research when you see something you like ... I was lucky to have an amazing professer for 20th century art.

    if you need something new look at Sparth's recent abstracts:
    http://www.sparth.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=31

    certainly seeing his normal work you can appreciate his abstractions and pure style.


    And Otis is right, you can't expect to amount to anything if can't get your head out of the ground...

    quagmire36: You should be proud of your daughter, a lot of kids can throw around paint.... but its rare one can appreciate abstraction.


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    Great paintings!

    Looks like your daughter's work has threatened a few insecure artists. Very funny, and a time honored tradition.

    Best of luck to her. Keep up the great work.

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    http://www.artakiane.com/

    You all just got a MAJOR artistic ass whooping. :ahha:

    The point is, there is almost always someone better than you. So don't get upset about it, just push yourself to succed.

    Your lucky you guys arn't in music. You get bashed so much more, and you very well could be extremly skilled.

    Don't just practice. Also Practice the right things, the right way.
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    although in my opinion i aint interested in abstracts, im more for the realism stuff which has more details etc.

    i will say your daughter does have a talent in her, and if she focuses enough she will be an even greater artist than many of us by the age of 16-20 . guarenteed.

    I didnt do abstracts when i was 12 but i drew more realism pics like horses etc. monsters and all. i kept with my art cus of my parents help.

    so you should keep supporting her more to persue her art

    though im surprised she would so easily sell her art. i find it hard enough departing with original pieces i make.

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