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    Great stuff B! Lovin the hover caddy! As always a wonderful update!
    Cheers!

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    woohoo page 5!

    thanks mike!

    here's that other guy I was drawing last night at the diner:


    still need to finish up his legs (note his mostly erased left leg next to the new sketchiness).

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    I love the looseness of the line in your sketches. Choosing where to remain loose and where to be tight can really lead the eye around. Cool stuff!

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    giddidy goo!! Diggin the hell out of the medivil stuff. My quick crit is that the squiggle vision might be hurting your figure work more than its helping. The proportions on your figures are really wonky, esp from the knees down and I'm not sure if it's because of your construction technique or anatomical knowlege. I dig your style, I just think that you could be pushing your creatures and characters allot harder, especially if you're working in a fantasy environment. *note if this is meant to be realism based w/the exception of the orc, disregard commentary* Fantasy, sci-fi, etc. are all EXTENSIONS of reality and are meant to be pushed outside of the realm of what we see, or could see, in a museum. Exaggerate that orc a bit more.. push the anatomical boundaries that you don't dare challenge.

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    Have I really not commented in here yet? Sheesh.

    What Mike said.

    Also, one point of reference to note in your standing figures: you often seem to place the bulk of the weight on one leg, which is nice, and leads to an interesting contrapasto pose. However, it should be noted that when the weight shifts to one leg, the hips shift to accomodate. The weight bearing leg will always have the hip higher. This also means that, the bulk of the time, that knee is higher as well. (little rule from Jerome Witkin for you).

    Anyway, keep up the updates man. It's getting hot in here!

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    andy p -- thanks!

    undertow and bdfoster thanks guys. I'm aware the legs have been an issue, something I've been working towards correcting. once I feel more set and steady with "normal" anatomy, I'll start pushing at the boundaries.

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    {jerome} ech, if that drawing could walk to a mirror and look at itself, it would vomit! but it can't do that because you gave it broken legs! {/jerome}

    he really said something like that to a kid in my class sophomore year

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    Bwk, this is really nice!

    I like the fact that you don't run over the same line as muck as we others do. Keeping the lines simple and readable, it's a good quality.
    but i still think you can reduce your lines, or make some lines thicker. As for now I don't know what lines to look at and whick lines I should ignore.

    I really like the character concepts you've been working out. You kow what kind of equipment characters of certain personalities carry, but i'd like some more face studies to strenghten their personalities. And a tips is that you make the poses a bit more expressive, give the gestures a character too. They are a little bit too stiff right now, try to think about their muscles and fat before you draw the lines.

    I'm too drunk for commenting right now, but I hope something of what i said was useful.
    I'll be sneaking this thread through now and then!

    But I'm le tired...

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    what the hell time is it in Sweden? I think you're too drunk for breakfast.

    you must be sobering up, you comments do make sense and I appreciate them!

    couple updates:
    had to get rid of the exposed wood planks in the shield and make him look less warrior-like (Cynelvin retires to be a druid at some point)
    [img][/img]

    finished up this guy a bit, but I cheated and stretched his legs in photoshop. my paper isn't big enough to re-draw them correctly anyhow ~


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    oh hey, I didn't realize I over-wrote the pencils in that last post, I'll have to take that down for the moment. Wildfiregame's doing an interview with gamedev.net sometime soon and they're requesting I keep the new colors on the down-low until then. Here's a bunch of new pencils, though:


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    You dig on those short legs, don't you? The minotaur turned out much more swank looking than I expected. His legs follow the same pitfall as some of your other figures-- they're a bit too short. While it's an "invented" anatomy for him, the legs look a little to frail and stumpy to support his bulk. All in all nice stuff, though. I really dig the compositional sketches...

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    Hey Brendan!
    Been a while since I dove in here...I like what I'm seeing, but agree with BD about the lower extremites. I think that Mike (Undertow) has also stated this in an earlier post.
    I do enjoy how you do your characters. Ass pat aside I think it would be great if you would temper the intensity of your line weight when establishing the gesture and form. Perhaps working with a blue pencil or a very cool gray marker in place of lead would be a start. Then, after establishing the form you could go with lead and drop in clean elegant lines that really give presence to your figures. Just an idea. If something's working for you, I hate to sway you in a new direction, but I do see positive possibilities if you marry your current technique with the idea I have. Just my 2 cents.
    All the best!
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    yeah, I've been working on the stumpy leg syndrome. I was doing some drawings today from a jui jitsu magazine today and I was really amazed at how freaking long the tibia/fibula are. I'll see if I can get those online tonight.

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    Okey bro,
    Got a few more minutes so I can dig into this. Playing off of what big Dave said.
    I don't mean to get into the psychology of this...but
    i get this gnawing feeling that ultimately what under rides
    all this is your resistance or fear to commit to A line, A single line to describe a form or shape. I don't
    mean this as a crit bro just an observation..i got nothing but deep respect and admiration for ya.
    But the way I see you uzi line after line after line, it's like you've covered every contigency but not
    the one that satisfies you. I understand there is a school of thought that finds beauty in multiple messy and
    impressionistic lines(ala Justin Sweet). It gives a dynamism, a gestural feel to it, especially when you are doing 1,2, or 3 minute life drawing
    studies. Yeah..working fast and like a madman is natural..but these are sketches that i see you work
    on for the 3 hours we are at sketchgroup. I know..sketches..and all..not finished pieces. I also realize that
    a tight sketch for you in your eyes becomes rather stiff and too formal. However, I still think you can hit that single line and
    make it look interesting and dynamic at the same time. I got faith in your ability man.
    Look at comic book artists and the outlines of their characters. In a fraction of the lines you use they are able
    to establish a dynamic, voluminous figure that has solidity and impact.
    I would also point to Mike V. (Undertow) Solidity, Volume and Impact all over the joint. Clean, minimal lines.
    Ok..just a thought...what if you did a gradual reduction?...
    Week one: Balls to the walls...lines galour...don't hold back get it all out of your system.
    Week two: Leave a touch of open space in a figure. Clean white..nothing there. And start to work on firming up some lines.
    Week three: More open space, cleaner lines, yet more descriptive.
    Week four: (at this point I imagine you rolling your eyes and going..pff..yeah fuck you ...) anywho...this will be the gotterdamerung...Clean sleek lines, with minimal messiness. Tight as all get out. Strive for that control.
    Week five: If you want to reintroduce some scribbles to vary things up that would be cool, but so long as they don't overwhelm.
    I don't know...Take this with a salt lick man...it's all just suggestion.
    Sorry for the insane verbage.
    Cheers!

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    did these two pages during my 30 minute lunch break today:



    dave -- I have done the blue pencil deal before, and I might try it just for the base gesture, but it tends to kill the spontaneity of the graphite afterwards. the process of coloring them also usually calms down the linework.

    ben-- I definitely agree about the demon (I erased and redrew his legs multiple times -- couldn't admit that I didn't have enough paper!!) and minotaur, but do you think the same thing holds true for the female warrior in armor?

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    Ok bro...look above this post...I updated the response.

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    thanks for taking the time for a thorough crit, mike, I appreciate it. Clarity of line is something I've started working towards more consciously since you guys mentioned it this week. however, I'd like to see what you think about the color I've been doing recently, I think it solves some of the things you have mentioned. I'm still waiting for that article to post so I can share more stuff.

    in the mean time, here's another ground pounding sketch:


    an orc whose totem animal is the raven:


    and a princess from the northern tribes (30 minute drawing during lunch break at the day job):


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    here's some color work done on the troll/orc guy (not done yet):


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    nice tones on the orc's skin there.

    great output all round (and so much!)

    Cal

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    Hey Brendan: Yeah I agree the color simplifies the linework to a good degree.
    But you can still see many of the higgildy piggildy lines of the sketch beneath..not that that's bad. Perhaps its as simple as dumping the opacity on that layer the sketch resides?
    But other than that...i think the colors are wonderful in this orc. Great hat by the by, looks like he's ready for an outing.
    Keep up the fine work.
    Cheers!

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    I really enjoy your style. Great looseness in it, and a lot of the works have great energy. Some of them could stand to be not so stiff I think, and you might try working on poses that arn't so awkward.
    Keep it up man!

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    I really enjoy your style. Great looseness in it, and a lot of the works have great energy. Some of them could stand to be not so stiff I think, and you might try working on poses that arn't so awkward.
    Keep it up man!

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    salaryman! thank-you, sir!

    helzon I want to have more focused intent to my drawings..I'm working on it. the orc is mostly color underneath the pencil here, only the head and shoulders have any opaque paint on top -- most of those squigglies will disappear tonight.

    moopuff stiff and awkward poses are next in line for the chopping block! thanks for stopping by buddy.

    1st step towards better linework: INK



    I expect to finish mr. orc/troll tonight.

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    Do your thing bro...it was all just suggestion...with a load of fudge factor room for style.
    Cheers!

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    oh man, this thread is intense!!! these are really complex and very interesting to look at. i really like the one of the older man with the typewriter in the background, i really llike the shading around the eyes. this is some really strong stuff. keep it up (P.S. what is your day job????)

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    mike-- it's good advice, forcing me to be more specific and intentional

    mitch --I'm a billing assistant at a truck leasing corporation

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    update for the orc, pretty much finished, I just need to tweak the feet a bit more.



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    Hey Bk, I actually liked the linework that was showing through the colors. I think it's good to show a bit of the thought process in the final piece. And for you, I think the looseness is working to enhance your style. As Helzon said, do your thing.
    The troll/orc did come out really nicely though. And a great SB overall as well!

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    I really like your pencil sketches

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    dutton thanks man, still working towards a method that feels completely natural. I haven't given up on having visible linework, some patterns and details I can't render any other way. learning how to make the marks with greater intent is the general goal at the moment, tho.
    jarri thanks!

    couple updates from last night at the diner with helzon:
    sketch dude, first page in a new book, I should probably erase him from the waist down and start the legs over fresh:


    ink drawing of Ukranian steel mill in current Nat Geo:


    Ukranian coal miner and Ethiopian wolves from same magazine, ink again:


    I'm going to try to wrap up that orc tonight then start to color something else, maybe that elf chick in the plate armor, idk, we'll see!

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