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    Tablet PC's discussion

    So, drawing with a stylus on all these new Windows 8 tablets.
    I'm having a hard time finding much info about what the drawing experience is like with all the new releases.
    Lenovo thinkpad 2, ideapad yoga, samsung ativ smart PC pro, acer w700, dell xps 12, hp envyx2, etc, and all others I'm forgetting.
    Even other options like all in one PCs (dell xps one 27, sony tap 20, etc).

    Anything that can be drawn directly on to the screen.

    Whenever I go on to google, I can find endless lists of hands on reviews and such for these devices but none of them talk about what it's like to draw on them.
    If you either own one, or manage to have a go on one, can you post what the experience was like here?
    I think it would be very handy to have all this info in one place.
    A lot of us want to get Wacom cintiq substitutes, but now there's so many options, it's really confusing.

    Thanks in advance!

    PS: Sorry if something similar to this thread has already been made- I couldn't find it!
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    I know that tablets like the Lenovo Thinkpad Tablet 2, Samsung Ativ Smart PC and Asus Vivo Tab, which are all Powered by the New Intel Atom Processor, have a Wacom Digitizer! And as they have the full Windows 8 Version, you can run x86 software on it.

    The question right now is tho, how well the New Atom CPU holds up and if we can run software like ArtRage, SketchBook Pro on it With adequate performance.
    I know software like PhotoShop and Painter might be a far stretch.... altho maybe an older Version of these two might actually run well on these tablets.

    The Atom Powered tablets are also in a more affordable range, while the fully fledge Core i3/i5/i7 tablets run almost all over the 1000 dollars.

    The Acer Iconia W700 tablet has a great price, but it doesn't have a Wacom Digitizer build in. :-(

    I myself I am very interested in the Samsung Ativ Smart PC. Saw it in the store today and the S-Pen worked great in Notes and Paint (just to test out responsiveness).
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    Be carefull with windows 8, some are the RT version and you can't install your "normal" version software on it, you need to go to the Microsoft store and buy a compatible RT version. I'm not sure Atom device (asus vivo tab, Samsung Ativ 500T Smart PC for example) have a full windows 8 OS, I read a few review with the RT version so be carefull while buying/trying

    I have no idea if Adobe or other company plan on a system that could use the key we have for desktop version to make a RT version run, I would be borred to buy two time the same software so I just hope we will have an option, or at least cheap price...

    Hope some of you can test the atom cpu models... I'm interested by the "pro" samsung ativ, but here in my small land we have absolutely no shops that propose them -_- they are out of stock, unavailable or coming soon... Sigh...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Griffonnage View Post
    Be carefull with windows 8, some are the RT version and you can't install your "normal" version software on it, you need to go to the Microsoft store and buy a compatible RT version. I'm not sure Atom device (asus vivo tab, Samsung Ativ 500T Smart PC for example) have a full windows 8 OS, I read a few review with the RT version so be carefull while buying/trying

    I have no idea if Adobe or other company plan on a system that could use the key we have for desktop version to make a RT version run, I would be borred to buy two time the same software so I just hope we will have an option, or at least cheap price...

    Hope some of you can test the atom cpu models... I'm interested by the "pro" samsung ativ, but here in my small land we have absolutely no shops that propose them -_- they are out of stock, unavailable or coming soon... Sigh...
    Samsung Ativ Tab has an ARM CPU and thus runs Windows RT.

    The Samsung Ativ Smart PC and Smart PC Pro have Intel CPU's and run Windows 8 (Pro) and thus can run Legacy x86 programs.

    You can easily see which tablets run Windows RT and which run Windows 8. Tablets With an ARM CPU (NVidia Tegra / Qualcom / etc) run Windows RT and Tablets With an Intel CPU ( Atom / Core i3, i5, i7) run Windows 8.
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    Thanks for this precision !
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    I was actually considering the Surface tablet as apposed to the Samsung 10.1 note. Any thoughts
    on this? I only heard is that the Surface does not have pressure sensitivity where the Samsung
    does.

    I like the fact of drawing on the screen as if I was drawing in a real sketchbook; as apposed to
    some Watcom tabs...were you draw on the tab but have to look on the screen to see what's
    going on...
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    Quote Originally Posted by wannabeanimator View Post
    I was actually considering the Surface tablet as apposed to the Samsung 10.1 note. Any thoughts
    on this? I only heard is that the Surface does not have pressure sensitivity where the Samsung
    does.

    I like the fact of drawing on the screen as if I was drawing in a real sketchbook; as apposed to
    some Watcom tabs...were you draw on the tab but have to look on the screen to see what's
    going on...
    True. The Microsoft Surface does not have a Wacom Digitizer and the Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 does.
    But Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 runs Android and right now there are not that many great drawing programs available compared to iOS and Windows platform.
    You got Sketchbook Pro for Android, but that one is a little underdeveloped, less features and a bit buggy.

    In the New Year tho, Microsoft is going to release the Surface Pro tablet, that runs Windows 8 Pro and that one will have a Wacom Digitizer.
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    The best place I've found for user reviews of tablet PCs is here:

    http://forum.tabletpcreview.com/

    Some of the new machines have reviews there now. Not everyone there is looking for drawing tools, but quite a few are, and most people at least review the handwriting experience.
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    JeroKane, that's great about the Surface pro having a wacom digitiser. I've tried to look this information up many times, but could never find any confirmation on it. This fills me with a good bit of hope
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    Quote Originally Posted by bahferretboy View Post
    JeroKane, that's great about the Surface pro having a wacom digitiser. I've tried to look this information up many times, but could never find any confirmation on it. This fills me with a good bit of hope
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    It was mentioned during one of the Conferences I believe, but unfortunately it hasn't been 100% confirmed yet by Microsoft. I still keep my fingers crossed that Microsoft licensed Wacom and not trying to reinvent the Wheel.
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    I don't know...if the "Samsung ATIV Smart PC Pro 700T 11.6" " already runs Windows 8 and has the Wacom digitizer...then why look
    any further....except for maybe the price point...1500.00...ouch!
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    Im going to buy the ativ smart pc pro in 15 days or so. Its powerfull and its wacom 1024
    I have been reading a lot of opinions about it. I hear that pen is having problems near the borders of the screen. I have to experience that myself before buying it.
    Also I read some complains about the plastic cheap keyboard and awfull balance when plugged in. (I dont mind that, I plan on using it by pen)
    Still I think is the most powerfull one and Ill like to run zbrush as well as photoshop so this one seems best chioce for me.
    btw, yes it runs windows 8
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    just been reading up about the ativ smart pc pro- shame about the issues with the keyboard and s-pen. Would have been sold on it, if it wernt for those!
    I am starting to get quite interested by the xps 12. Will have to look up some reviews on it, when it's released (around the 5th december I believe).

    Can you use any stylus with a stylus enabled tablet? Or do you need to use the one it comes with? (Apparently the ativ pro stylus is quite small)
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