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    Artists who do figure drawing using copic markers

    Hi guys,

    Can anyone recommend some great artists that does figure drawings in copic markers (and pens)?

    I'm currently playing around with using copic markers for the rough lay-in and then using pen to draw and refine the stuff on top of the lay-in, and then shade in using copic markers again.
    Looking for artists who does this as a kind of reference and inspiration, but can't seem to find any.

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    I donīt think a lot of artists would do that and that kinda would be frown a upon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeon_OND View Post
    Hi guys,

    Can anyone recommend some great artists that does figure drawings in copic markers (and pens)?

    I'm currently playing around with using copic markers for the rough lay-in and then using pen to draw and refine the stuff on top of the lay-in, and then shade in using copic markers again.
    Looking for artists who does this as a kind of reference and inspiration, but can't seem to find any.

    Thanks!
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    I know peter han uses marker and pen. Havent seen his figures but you could probably use the same technique. Sorry I cant offer more.

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    I donīt think a lot of artists would do that and that kinda would be frown a upon.
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    What's with people narrowing stuff lately. Who cares if it's copics? How about Markers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeon_OND View Post
    Hi guys,

    Can anyone recommend some great artists that does figure drawings in copic markers (and pens)?

    I'm currently playing around with using copic markers for the rough lay-in and then using pen to draw and refine the stuff on top of the lay-in, and then shade in using copic markers again.
    Looking for artists who does this as a kind of reference and inspiration, but can't seem to find any.

    Thanks!
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    As I recall, Mccaig is a fan of marker art in his conceptual work.

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    I donīt think a lot of artists would do that and that kinda would be frown a upon.
    wut?

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    Scott Robertson does a lot of his earlier rendering using those markers. have a look under the transportation design section in the link below. several of those books contain marker drawings if i'm not mistaken.

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    Yo Xeon!

    I think Mentler here on CA works extensively in Copics.

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    I am just speaking from experience with some professor, I didn't say I was correct or wrong... -_-

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    Quote Originally Posted by karta tajba View Post
    I am just speaking from experience with some professor, I didn't say I was correct or wrong... -_-
    Well, no offence but you kind of did.

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    I donīt think a lot of artists would do that and that kinda would be frown a upon.
    And if you say something like that here, you need to be prepared to back it up when people call you out on it.

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    Any fashion designer or industrial designer or pre-production artist used markers before 1995.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dpaint View Post
    Any fashion designer or industrial designer or pre-production artist used markers before 1995.
    No, but they must be Copics! Apparently the brand is important

    I also remember markers being used commonly for storyboards as well (commercials etc...)

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    Yup! If you worked in a advertising agency or design studio any time up to the advent of Photoshop you used Magic Markers to rough-out adverts, compositions and layout. How quickly this is forgotten.

    Older thread about Iain McCaig's process, or part of it:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeon_OND View Post
    Hi guys,

    Can anyone recommend some great artists that does figure drawings in copic markers (and pens)?

    I'm currently playing around with using copic markers for the rough lay-in and then using pen to draw and refine the stuff on top of the lay-in, and then shade in using copic markers again.
    Looking for artists who does this as a kind of reference and inspiration, but can't seem to find any.

    Thanks!
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    i know manga artist mostly use copic markers for sketching at cons that's what they're made for manga art and comic artist use them to for sketching at cons.

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    im a fan of markers myself and i own quite a bunch even if i cant really handle them... so no need to defend their purpose especially if it comes to production art.

    but guys, xeon asked for examples of figure drawings done in markers (im having the flu, beeing on meds, but i think i got this right reading it repeatetly to make sure...), and while you posted nice examples of marker art... i havent seen one figure drawing.

    so im with karta in that aspect... considering the costs (marker paper, markers, tips, ink,...), their relatively smallish size (imagine covering a3+, even if its the broads...), and the fact they cant be erased, compared to say charcoal on newsprint, i wouldnt go for it, and yeah id probably frown upon the attempt. to me its like attempting to paint the walls of your room, with kolinsky brushes and old holland paint.

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    Figure drawing doesn't necessarily mean nude people in a studio. Examples given show people rendered in markers.
    Deleting rest of posts engaging in bickering afterwards.

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    this time without bickering....

    theres a line between concept art and figure drawing... most of what you see of e.g. mccaigs work is concept art... which is focused on design not the figure (which just provides the underlying structure), or storytelling which is focused on the story... not the figure... gawd this is exhausting.

    [edit] figure drawing (as i understand that term) is just the basics there... not the goal... and thats the difference.

    [edit 2] who deleted those posts? i would like to know whom i need to adress via pm... how this been handled again is symptomatic for what ca has become...

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    I saw someone do that last weekend at Dr.Sketchy, so it's still done. They were using the greyscale markers, no colours. Just give it a try.

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    I guess you'd have to be specific Xeon - do you mean fairly traditional figure work? Fashion/costume design? Small, quick block-ins and gestures, etc? Markers are really not well suited to working large or broad. Other media are far more effective.

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    Hi guys!

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    I guess you'd have to be specific Xeon - do you mean fairly traditional figure work? Fashion/costume design? Small, quick block-ins and gestures, etc? Markers are really not well suited to working large or broad. Other media are far more effective.
    Actually, I was refering to the stuff ones does at those figure drawing sessions. Like using copics and pen to draw figures in those 20 - 30 min poses and working arnd A4 size.

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    Ah - then yeah...copics (or any markers) would be a really poor media, especially compared to conte or charcoal. They just aren't made for large, broad coverage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffX99 View Post
    Ah - then yeah...copics (or any markers) would be a really poor media, especially compared to conte or charcoal. They just aren't made for large, broad coverage.
    However, A4 (letter) size is rather small so it doesn't matter.
    Just do figure drawing in what you got available. It's all practice anyways - you'll figure out by trying why something doesn't work or not.

    If anything, conte and charcoal would be inappropriate for that size being used.

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    Ooops - I thought A4 was the larger size stuff - like 16x20 - guess not! But yeah - you can always give it a shot...Xeon was just wondering why they never see it done in traditional situations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffX99 View Post
    Ooops - I thought A4 was the larger size stuff - like 16x20 - guess not! But yeah - you can always give it a shot...Xeon was just wondering why they never see it done in traditional situations.
    Well I agree that if you're using Newsprint or large pads, Marker is really inappropriate, but Mentler (who had been mentioned earlier) uses a combination of Pens with Marker as a blender/blender marker.

    http://www.artistdaily.com/blogs/dra...ketchbook.aspx

    Copic is just the hot new marker...though I remember long ago them being used by CLAMP. Copics are now branding their sets... for some marketing ploys like http://www.amazon.com/Copic-Figure-D.../dp/B001OY80MQ

    To me it doesn't matter if people are clothed or nude or if it has to be some studio setting as long as you keep drawing. But for those obsessed with this well

    http://www.tmbritton.com/2011/08/fig...rtpak-markers/

    http://theblackmarketlibrarian.blogs...1_archive.html

    http://joanvienot.com/figure-drawing...n-alfieri-1873

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    I've used Copics in a life drawing session, but I generally don't use them because I'd have to carry several different papers and I worry that the other people in the session (we're packed pretty tightly in there) would not really appreciate the smell and constant clicking noise of closing and opening the pens (it's a very quiet situation with lots of older people) and as I draw on both sides of the paper, using Copics generally means that the colour has gotten to the other side of the paper, which isn't a huge deal but I just don't like drawing on splotchy paper.

    Generally I prefer them for doing simple colour blocks, like in the mentioned Dr. Sketchy drawing session where the models wore bright coloured clothes, I used pencil for the figure and the added some colour with Copics to the clothes.

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    Thanks for the insight guys! The noisy clicking sound of the copics' caps brought up by TinyBird was something I didn't think of before!

    I think it's best to draw with copics sometimes and dry medium at other times. Copics and pen are really fun but they kind of lack the control one has when one uses dry medium. It's hard to shade smoothly with markers unless one has plenty of those, which costs $$$.

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