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    Richter sale sets living artist record $34.2 million

    “The combination of outstanding provenance and gold-standard quality in this sublime work by this blue-chip artist made for an historic auction moment,” said Alex Branczik, senior director at Sotheby's and head of the sale.

    http://www.iol.co.za/news/world/rich...cord-1.1402309



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    A fool and his money are soon parted

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    “Abstraktes Bild (809-4)”, from the collection of rock guitarist Eric Clapton, was sold to an anonymous buyer after five minutes of bidding late on Friday, triggering a round of applause.
    I'm pretty sure that's the main factor. I don't know who that guy is, but he's pretty famous.

    Clapton is the only three-time inductee to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame: once as a solo artist, and separately as a member of The Yardbirds and Cream. Clapton has been referred to as one of the most important and influential guitarists of all time.[1] Clapton ranked second in Rolling Stone magazine's list of the "100 Greatest Guitarists of All Time"[2] and fourth in Gibson's Top 50 Guitarists of All Time.[3]


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    Makes me think of this master artist:

    http://www.funlok.com/index.php/craz...-06042011.html

    The results look pretty much the same anyway.



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    So it's a celebrity artifact by a celebrity artist. Two for the price of one? AND I bet it's tax deductable.

    Dunno, makes sense to me. This stuff is bought more as an "investment" than as "art" anyway - hence the stock market language ("blue chip artist"... uh huh. Artists are just another stock option to the Sotheby's/Christies crowd, apparently.) And for the people who buy these kinds of things, $34 mil is lunch money... Added bonus, once you invest $34 million into it and it makes headlines, it becomes MORE famous for that fact alone, and the value goes up.

    Rich people. They live on another planet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by QueenGwenevere View Post
    Rich people. They live on another planet.
    http://richkidsofinstagram.tumblr.com/

    Not sure whether one should resent them too much though: they do after all buy art, and now and then even buy some good art. :-)

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    At least buyer won't have to worry if his kid spills something on this thing. It could add a little more value to it though.

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    How much did the musician pay for the painting in the first place, I wonder?

    ...I only call it a painting because it's a canvas that has paint on it.

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    As someone once eloquently said "It's been a tough century for modesty, craftsmanship and tenderness".

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    What do you buy for the man who has everything?

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    I misread the thread title and thought it was about earthquakes and artists.

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    It looks like it was painted during an earthquake.

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    I smile. We are so predictable here. I guess it's impossible that someone actually likes and has a passion for Richter's work and is not an idiot?
    I've asked myself if I were smart enough to be a bazilionaire would my taste lean toward something else like this. Guess I'll never know. I'll always be a hundredaire at best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bcarman View Post
    I smile. We are so predictable here. I guess it's impossible that someone actually likes and has a passion for Richter's work and is not an idiot?
    I've asked myself if I were smart enough to be a bazilionaire would my taste lean toward something else like this. Guess I'll never know. I'll always be a hundredaire at best.
    I've lurked and posted in numerous of these "Modern Art" threads. I try to keep an open mind and view things within their cultural and historical context. Based on the OP, I Googled Richter, (dodged Wikipedia) and checked out his website.

    He's an interesting fellow. He was schooled in communist East Germany and defected to West Germany in the Cold War era. His contemporary work also includes many realist works based, largely, on photographs, whatever anyone might feel about that.

    I do find obscene amounts of money to be interesting! Hell, I like money! Call me an un-American Commie, but I find our National Pastime, baseball, to be deadly boring. But. . . the obscene amount of money involving billionaire owners and millionaire players-- running around in stylized pajamas playing a kid's game-- that's fascinating!

    The Gagosian Gallery in NYC is major seller of Richter's works. Browsing Gagosian's website I found another artist-- a Realist, who may be more to the CA community's liking--Richard Phillips. He appears to be doing well and paints monumental pictures of photorealist swimsuit glamour stuff:

    http://gagosian.cdn.crvncms.com/__da...63da6acf8e.jpg

    I find all kinds of art interesting. The stuff that sells in NYC, LA, and London, I find VERY interesting!

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    I don't really get abstract... but I've looked into it a little and some of it is really nice, and others, like this one, I don't really like.

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    I actually quite like it.
    It would look cool over my couch.

    Not 33 million level cool, but yeah, I'd probably have that on the wall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by QueenGwenevere View Post
    Rich people. They live on another planet.

    Must be nice.

    Doctors heal you, Artists immortalize you.

    "Those who can, do. Those who can't, teach" - bullshit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flake View Post
    I actually quite like it.
    It would look cool over my couch.
    Plus, it would go nicely with any curtains you could ever put up, thanks to all those colours. Hell, it would go well with the curtains even if you set them on fire. :-)

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    I'm completely serious, I kinda like that, I'd hang it in my living room.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psychotime View Post
    I'm pretty sure that's the main factor. I don't know who that guy is, but he's pretty famous.
    The fact that you don't know who Eric Clapton is makes me so much more sad than the fact that that painting sold for that amount. I mean... Cream. Ever heard of them? Sunshine of my Love? Ring any bells?





    And for the record, I quite like the painting as well as many of Richter's other paintings. There seems to be a ridiculous bias on this website towards abstract art, regardless of how it actually looks. Perhaps some of you would like his photo-realist paintings?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bcarman View Post
    We are so predictable here.
    It just ain't right I tell you. As a frustrated illustrator, a man with the personality of a piece of cardboard, struggling to produce mediocre, forgettable and plain-uninteresting imagery, this angers me! Angers me it does! I slave away trying to get the highlight to look right on this goblin's head, the light reflecting off a unicorn's buttocks, and I get nothing. Meanwhile this Gerald Richard puts paint all messy and confusing-like on paper, probably does it out the corner of his eye while watching 'Everybody Loves Raymond,' and he gets all the respect and interest. It just don't make no sense to me. I suspect it's because he used to be in a band with Rob Stewart, whoever he is. Fools these rich people are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob Kobryn View Post
    The fact that you don't know who Eric Clapton is makes me so much more sad than the fact that that painting sold for that amount. I mean... Cream. Ever heard of them? Sunshine of my Love? Ring any bells?
    No. If it was something like Tower of Power or Heatwave, then maybe. Heck, even really old stuff like Don Redman or Artie Shaw. I don't even listen to MODERN music.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blogmatix View Post
    http://richkidsofinstagram.tumblr.com/

    Not sure whether one should resent them too much though: they do after all buy art, and now and then even buy some good art. :-)
    I started laughing at this..... .... then I went through the pages..... my smile started to wane...... then there was no smile...... but an astonished reality that there are spoiled silver spooned jagoffs that make jokes about their 20+ thousand dollar bar bill with hash tags like #GetOnMyLevel....... .... then I became mad...... .... I mad......

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    Quote Originally Posted by bcarman View Post
    We are so predictable here.
    http://conceptart.org/forums/showthr...-don-t-get-art

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    You know, which art people choose to buy and how much they choose to pay for it never really bothers me (beyond the slap-in-the-face of knowing there are people who can drop millions on one small luxury commodity...) People can buy whatever they want, that's their business. What bothers me is the way the Sotheby's/Christies crowd and their ilk treat art as an "investment" with apparently no thought for the actual art.

    I swear, it's never about whether a piece is aesthetically pleasing or interesting or exciting in itself. It's always about how "valuable" it is. Their language is all about potential monetary value, rarely about the quality of the work itself, and their evaluation of a work usually seems to be based primarily on how much the artist's work has sold for in the past and how much will the value appreciate in the future... "Rare/unique", "Important", "Valuable", "Genuine/undisputed provenance", "Established/blue chip artist", etc. etc. etc...

    I suppose that's to be expected. They are art "dealers", after all. Art hustling is their business.

    I always wonder about these things, though: if you took that same Richter-touched-by-Eric Clapton (or Munch, or Van Gogh, or whatever,) and sold it as a new work by an unknown art student, not previously owned by anybody... Or if the artist and provenance were unknown... would it sell for millions? I doubt it. Sure, it might sell to somebody who likes it enough, but not for millions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grosby View Post
    It just ain't right I tell you. As a frustrated illustrator, a man with the personality of a piece of cardboard, struggling to produce mediocre, forgettable and plain-uninteresting imagery, this angers me! Angers me it does! I slave away trying to get the highlight to look right on this goblin's head, the light reflecting off a unicorn's buttocks, and I get nothing. Meanwhile this Gerald Richard puts paint all messy and confusing-like on paper, probably does it out the corner of his eye while watching 'Everybody Loves Raymond,' and he gets all the respect and interest. It just don't make no sense to me. I suspect it's because he used to be in a band with Rob Stewart, whoever he is. Fools these rich people are.
    Do we think that as illustrators, realists, etc. we have a corner on the frustrated hard work market? Because we don't understand we denigrate? I don't understand the pushing of abstract numbers around computers all over the world to make more money as abstract numbers which magically converts to real money at the bank but I don't belittle it (well I do in an I'm not very smart way). I don't understand it. I don't like Richter's work, never have, but don't believe for a minute that he didn't work hard to get where he is.

    This is what I meant by predictability. Having a well informed opinion is one thing but using the "my five year old could do it" argument is something I fight against when teaching.

    The truth is we all live in a very different world than Sothebys et al and will probably never really understand it. I get that it can be fun to make fun of what we think is ridiculous but maybe there is something to learn too. If someone would pay me 34 million to package my shit in a can I would.

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    Quote Originally Posted by QueenGwenevere View Post
    You know, which art people choose to buy and how much they choose to pay for it never really bothers me (beyond the slap-in-the-face of knowing there are people who can drop millions on one small luxury commodity...) People can buy whatever they want, that's their business. What bothers me is the way the Sotheby's/Christies crowd and their ilk treat art as an "investment" with apparently no thought for the actual art.

    I swear, it's never about whether a piece is aesthetically pleasing or interesting or exciting in itself. It's always about how "valuable" it is. Their language is all about potential monetary value, rarely about the quality of the work itself, and their evaluation of a work usually seems to be based primarily on how much the artit's work has sold for in the past and how much will the value appreciate in the future... "Rare/unique", "Important", "Valuable", "Genuine/undisputed provenance", "Established/blue chip artist", etc. etc. etc...

    I suppose that's to be expected. They are art "dealers", after all. Art hustling is their business.

    I always wonder about these things, though: if you took that same Richter-touched-by-Eric Clapton (or Munch, or Van Gogh, or whatever,) and sold it as a new work by an unknown art student, not previously owned by anybody... Or if the artist and provenance were unknown... would it sell for millions? I doubt it. Sure, it might sell to somebody who likes it enough, but not for millions.
    You're right and this is in part my point. It's more about business than art. More about the market value. If I had a lock of hair left it surely wouldn't sell but a lock of Elvis' hair sold once for over 100 thousand dollars. Like I said, we live in a different world both artistically and financially than the Richter crowd so we can't compare apples to oranges.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bcarman View Post
    You're right and this is in part my point. It's more about business than art. More about the market value. If I had a lock of hair left it surely wouldn't sell but a lock of Elvis' hair sold once for over 100 thousand dollars. Like I said, we live in a different world both artistically and financially than the Richter crowd so we can't compare apples to oranges.
    So, you would say that, apart from its gold-plated, hoity-toity "chain of custody," the OP's Richter piece lacks intrinsic value?

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