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    This is missing something! Need help ASAP! [UPDATED]

    This is supposed to go on a T-shirt. It's missing something. I tried something new with color and learned a lot while doing this. I think the idea is great and it has the feel that I intended...but it needs something. I would imagine a sort of bg but simple to keep the figures the focal point but I really don't know.

    GAH! I need help.

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    Something is definitely missing, I can't see any image. Did you attach it?

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    Sorry about that. Fixed and up, I hope.

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    Your colors are very muddy and streaky.

    I would simplify the palette far more. Choose 4 colours
    at the most. Lay down the base values and take it from there.

    Be more confident in your strokes and stick to a simpler color range. Leave
    the details until after the big shapes and forms are taken care of.

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    Smoothed out the colors a bit. I wanted a pretty wide range of color and light to dark transitions (something I'm scared of) but I think it just came out messy. I don't know what to do to bring the whole image together. A friend suggested a circular dragon and I needed a dragon that would fit the style.

    Ugh...

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    Your friend was so very wrong.

    Adding big elements like that is not going to fix this image.
    The values are still washed out and muddy. The dragon
    has just made the whole thing more confusing.

    If this is a t-shirt design, the simpler the colors are the better. I'd also
    consider stylising the image by starting over and nailing
    some solid line work down before moving onto coloring.

    Looking at their faces, I see purple, yellow, orange, green, red and blue smudges.
    There is no control as to how you are applying those colors which is resulting
    in a mess.

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    I would agree with Star Eater with a lot of his points, as for a background element... I would play with maybe flowers? But only after the other issues are fixed. You may find you don't need them then.

    Take a look at the image in greyscale too, It might help looking at your image without the colour in it to see where you may want to go with it.

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    I don't think that the crooked, somewhat sloppy details work well with the formal staging and static composition.

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    You're usually nicer than that, Vineris. I'm a little shocked at your nonchalant way of telling me I made shit.

    I will look at it in greyscale. Thanks, Mrianna.

    Star Eater, my initial plan with this was to create smudges and blobs of color. I agree that the colors don't make sense but I've seen so much art where the colors didn't make sense. The point of this design was to take a risk and do something you've never done before. Me? I'm scared of dark and bold colors. I wanted this to look like an artistic/painterly (sort of spectral pukish) design. It didn't turn out. Well...that's obvious, lol.

    I KNOW there's a way to have symmetry and a lot of straight lines without giving a static feel...I just know there is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elissiam View Post
    You're usually nicer than that, Vineris. I'm a little shocked at your nonchalant way of telling me I made shit.
    If I thought it was shit I'd say "start again". My bad for not explaining what I meant more clearly! But come on -- the poses are so symmetric that every place where the eyes seem off or where one cheek seems to bulge more than the other really stands out. It gives an overall impression of not paying attention to what you're doing. If you're going to put this on a t-shirt and people are going to wear it around, then you really want it to be as good as you can make it.

    The cartoony, exaggerated faces contrast a LOT with the poses and give the whole thing a very uneasy feeling. One of the things you might want to do is decide whether that is the impression that you want to give. If it is, it might be good to exaggerate that even more somehow and make it clear that you are doing that on purpose. If not, then you probably want to exaggerate the faces somewhat less.

    I think the idea has potential, and the colours are interesting, but I'd probably go back to the composition and work on the abstract shapes, since the design seems to depend on shape and colour so much.

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    That does help, Vineris. Thank you. I will post an update at some point today.

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