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    Help with Stylized Face

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    There's a few issues that I still need to fix, i.e. wonky/underdeveloped mouth, eyes a bit to cartoonish for my liking...but I think there is something else wrong but I can't seem to see it.

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    I think it might be the area that I circled, but I'm not sure (maybe it's just me).

    Help?

    Last edited by PogoJones; October 4th, 2012 at 01:59 PM. Reason: misleading title 'cause I'm dense
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    Could you post the refs you used for this?

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    Sorry, I forgot to mention is was a from the imagination kind of thing. I was trying to see if I could remember the planes and whatnot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PogoJones View Post
    I was trying to see if I could remember the planes and whatnot.
    Well, maybe you should go and see if you did remember them by comparing it to a real thing? It usually helps, and at least shows that you try by yourself (really you don't believe how many people come here trying to do anatomy etc straight from imagination but don't bother to then check from a ref how close they got and do fixes). If that doesn't help or you have spots you can't figure out, then I'd come asking further advice.

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    It's not just the eyes, the whole thing is more than "a bit" cartoonish. I'm with TB, you've given it your best shot from your head, now, before you go asking anybody else, how about you compare it to the real thing and see if you can tell where you've gone off?


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    Really sorry guys. I'm a complete failure at providing context. When I said study, it wasn't a realistic facial study. It was a study in stylization. (One of my issues is whenever I try apply what I know about realistic faces to a stylized one, things get lost in translation and I can't remember how things work)

    Which I'm not saying that to change anything, I'm still going to look up references whenever I get home. Which I should have done from the beginning which I realize now. I'm still trying to break out of the flawed "having to use references means I cant draw" logic I picked in high school. I'm just saying that the situation wasn't that I was aiming for realism and I ended up with this thinking it looked realistic.

    Speaking of references, I know about Posemaniacs, but do you know of any photo site that has a better range of figure types, or any place that deals with portraits? (I need more face types)

    Anyway, thanks for taking the time to reply so far El and TB

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swamp Thing View Post
    Yeah, that might be it. After stepping away for a few hours, I was thinking the perspective of the head was angled a bit different than the features. Pulling out/emphasizing the cheek helps.

    Thanks Swamp Thing!

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    ]just for clarities sake i dont think your studying a face if your not using a reference. your painting a cartoonish face and workout how problems more or less. references still help in cases like this though.

    I hope u dont mind i took the liberty to find someone i thought was similar (jamie bell from tintin) and do a bit of painting. i referenced the photo to see basic shortcomings and then use it to push the cartoon rendering more.

    You will notice the hair is rendered different. Its rendered basic on how the hair in the photo is lit. I did the same for the eyes and nose. Its good to have consistant lighting.

    You will also notice the cheek, teeth, and neck are repainted for a more accurate presentation. something more believable and understandable.

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    @Sunny

    Just want to mention that it's kinda unusual to have the lips edge sticked out (the flesh aside the lips actually) like you drew it, IF at the same time you have the cheekbone pulled out from smiling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PogoJones View Post
    Really sorry guys. I'm a complete failure at providing context. When I said study, it wasn't a realistic facial study. It was a study in stylization.
    Stylization has its basis in reality *wags finger* (much like Sunny showed).

    Anyway, for photo sites, try these:
    http://characterdesigns.com/index.ph...page=photosets
    http://fineart.sk/
    http://photo-reference-for-comic-artists.com/
    http://www.scott-eaton.com/category/bodies-in-motion

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