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    A man's gotta do what a man's gotta do

    Hi there... My name is Vinicius Camolesi. I'm 23 years old, almost 24, and started to think seriously of art about 2 and a half months ago. I'll show you all the stuff I'm been doing for that time. At least what is worth showing.. hehe
    Critiques are most than welcome!


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    Link from my moleskine, done with cool grey markers.
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    Actually I tryed getting serious about art in the end of 2009, but it didn't work properly... I hope this time I get it right.

    This was me experimenting with markers, really bad results. I really need to get a tablet and start training to paint...
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    This was pretty much what I have done last week.
    All from imagination, except the ones that have the PM and REF writen next to it. PM was posemaniacs and the other some random stock photo... I wasn't trying to make a good shadow with values, just to block in a way I could define the musculature.

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    From now on, I will try to update this thread as much as possible. Hope you guys help me in that "quest'... Hehe.


    And finally... wooooooff... This is what I did today:
    Some random poses, all from imagination.
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    I can see some progress in the anatomy, poses and lines, but I don't really know how to continue the study I've been doing... Think I'll just stick with it for now.

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    Good start, at least it looks like you're drawing a lot. Some, not all and mainly on the guys, the torso is a bit short; it looks this they don't have a pelvis for the legs to attach to. Donn't blindly copy, but think about each part of the body and how they all fit together.


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    hey good start indeed! its nice to see how you are focusing on anatomy from the very beginning, its not perfect, but really good already.
    Keep working!
    cheers!

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    yeah good start but maybe you can incorporate more studies into your routine, anyways keep posting!

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    wow, you have a good eye for bodies in motion. The poses in your imagination drawings are convincing and have a good sense of balance/weight.
    I agree with Black Spot about the pelvis- something tends to be amiss in that region. But it's nothing that some drawing from references and a short read on anatomy wouldn't fix ^^
    I like your experiments with markers. I think it might be beneficial to your skills to try different techniques, even before getting a tablet. Maybe something that let's you block in shadow areas quickly.

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    Noses, most from photos.
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    Random characters. I saw the pose of the girl in a photo.
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    This is my share for now, It's been a pretty busy week, so I didn't draw as much as I wanted.

    Quote Originally Posted by Black Spot View Post
    Good start, at least it looks like you're drawing a lot. Some, not all and mainly on the guys, the torso is a bit short; it looks this they don't have a pelvis for the legs to attach to. Donn't blindly copy, but think about each part of the body and how they all fit together.
    Thanks for the crit, I'll keep that in mind.


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    hey good start indeed! its nice to see how you are focusing on anatomy from the very beginning, its not perfect, but really good already.
    Keep working!
    cheers!
    Thanks, dude.

    Quote Originally Posted by kevin_ View Post
    yeah good start but maybe you can incorporate more studies into your routine, anyways keep posting!
    Yeah, I really need more studies, but I don't know if I'm really progressin in other things... Would be good to have a teacher.

    Quote Originally Posted by kabewu View Post
    wow, you have a good eye for bodies in motion. The poses in your imagination drawings are convincing and have a good sense of balance/weight.
    I agree with Black Spot about the pelvis- something tends to be amiss in that region. But it's nothing that some drawing from references and a short read on anatomy wouldn't fix ^^
    I like your experiments with markers. I think it might be beneficial to your skills to try different techniques, even before getting a tablet. Maybe something that let's you block in shadow areas quickly.
    Hmmm...Markers let me block shadows quickly... Hehe! Thank's for the thoughts.

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    impressive start a lot of hard work is obviously going on here, i guess just keep doing what your doing do as many anatomy studies as u can to attack weak point like you diud with the m=noses, do life studies ect. You have good design sensibilities when it comes to your characters ect so keep that up.
    i think seeing your own progress is just a slow process as you look at your wor everyday but if you keep the work rate up you will be able to look back in a few months as=n see the progress, just dont except it to be mega fast too quick but it happens just from the act of drawing constantly so i have learned

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    Seriously cool stuff being posted. Keep it up and make sure to do some drawing every day.

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    Hi vinicam, I must say, good work!! I did notice many incoherences in anatomy, sometimes in faces and some times arms/legs/ etc. If I were you I would start reading some anatomy books. There are good ones for anatomy drawing for artists. Be sure to check your local library!! I see potential but as Andrew Loomis says: No matter how great your talent, talent has to work with kowledge to do anything well.

    I think that is some of the best advice there is at this stage (which I'm currently also in).

    I'll be passing by again soon, be sure to check my sb !!

    Cya around!

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    Much better. Keep on improving.


    I didn't think it was possible to be called an artist when you have nothing to say. It's like being a writer who publishes individual words as books and expects to be praised for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ja1307 View Post
    impressive start a lot of hard work is obviously going on here, i guess just keep doing what your doing do as many anatomy studies as u can to attack weak point like you diud with the m=noses, do life studies ect. You have good design sensibilities when it comes to your characters ect so keep that up.
    i think seeing your own progress is just a slow process as you look at your wor everyday but if you keep the work rate up you will be able to look back in a few months as=n see the progress, just dont except it to be mega fast too quick but it happens just from the act of drawing constantly so i have learned
    Yeah, it's a slow process and sometimes(like this week) I can't draw as much as I wanted, but I can't get sad about it... Thanks for the comment.
    Quote Originally Posted by Old Ben Kenobi View Post
    Seriously cool stuff being posted. Keep it up and make sure to do some drawing every day.
    I'm trying do draw as much as I can each day, but this week was too busy...

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    Hi vinicam, I must say, good work!! I did notice many incoherences in anatomy, sometimes in faces and some times arms/legs/ etc. If I were you I would start reading some anatomy books. There are good ones for anatomy drawing for artists. Be sure to check your local library!! I see potential but as Andrew Loomis says: No matter how great your talent, talent has to work with kowledge to do anything well.

    I think that is some of the best advice there is at this stage (which I'm currently also in).

    I'll be passing by again soon, be sure to check my sb !!

    Cya around!
    I can notice it too, everytime I draw a little better than before I can see all the flaws in the past drawings, but sometimes I just stop trying to correct something and go do the next.

    Quote Originally Posted by Black Spot View Post
    Much better. Keep on improving.
    Thanks for the support.


    Ok, this week works(most of today):

    - Tried to do at least a study a day, but didn't come as planed...
    - And a "fineshed sketch" I did today... Maybe will paint this subject someday, when I learn how to paint... lol

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    I realized something... I really don't know how to copy something. You can see at my drawings, whenever I try to copy something straight from reference, it came like shit and all out of proportions. But when I just use the photo as a reference and do my version it come alot better, you can clearly define wich is wich in this post.

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    Eai xará hehe

    Good start man! Its nice to see you focusing in anatomy. Don't forget color too
    Keep improving!

    see ya

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    Quote Originally Posted by wasabi89 View Post
    Eai xará hehe

    Good start man! Its nice to see you focusing in anatomy. Don't forget color too
    Keep improving!

    see ya
    Opa, vlw! Haha...

    I'm waiting to get a Wacon so I can start painting.




    Now, for the update... Last week:

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    Some more work:

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    And more, from today:

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    On some (again not all) you're making the lower half of the leg short and a bit weedy. Keep proportion in your head at all times, put it down and come back to it in an hour and try to look at it with fresh eyes.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Spot View Post
    On some (again not all) you're making the lower half of the leg short and a bit weedy. Keep proportion in your head at all times, put it down and come back to it in an hour and try to look at it with fresh eyes.
    Strange how those things work... Now that you said it, I can clearly see the problem in some drawings, altough I can't really find why I do that... And I'm not sure if I undestand what you say by weedy, you mean... Thin?
    Thanks for passing by, this thread need some movement, but is my fault also, this last week I was so tired from work that I didn't have done much drawing at home, also the heat that is making here is overwhelming, my room is sooooooo hot I can't even sleep well.

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    You are really good with a black ink pen (or what it may be). I really love the monster from the first post.
    and yes, the leg thing ofcourse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xNatje View Post
    You are really good with a black ink pen (or what it may be). I really love the monster from the first post.
    and yes, the leg thing ofcourse.
    Thanks! Already working on that leg thing(ok, maybe not yet D.

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    On the multi-legged person look at the length of the lower leg compared to the upper part on the ones that are standing. They should be a bit longer. You tend to do it more on the males.


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    For your anatomy you could maybe look at separate parts of the body? Just looking a muscle structure etc. I’m nowhere near good enough to really give advice but I did find that doing that helped It’s clear that you’re really looking to improve so I’m looking forward to seeing the progress you make

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    Quote Originally Posted by SophieW View Post
    For your anatomy you could maybe look at separate parts of the body? Just looking a muscle structure etc. I’m nowhere near good enough to really give advice but I did find that doing that helped It’s clear that you’re really looking to improve so I’m looking forward to seeing the progress you make
    Might be good... I'll probably do some studies like that this week.

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    On the multi-legged person look at the length of the lower leg compared to the upper part on the ones that are standing. They should be a bit longer. You tend to do it more on the males.
    Yeah, I can totally see it... lol
    I'll try to pay more attention to it.


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    You're putting in a lot of mileage here friend, that's great!

    One thing I noticed though is you tend to go straight for contour and details; I think you'd benefit greatly from taking a step back and learning to build up to that with gesture and constructive anatomy. Doing that would help you keep your poses from getting stiff and make sure your forms read well even without shading, and with how much drawing you're already doing I'm sure you'd improve quickly.

    Anyways, just a thought. Keep working hard ^_^.

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