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    Anyone interested in philosophy/politics/psychology?

    I've recently published my 2nd book, a short work of philosophy/politics/psychology. It is a general analysis of our society (The United States in particular, but I think it's applicable globally), from the point of view of the (lack of) freedom and equality of each individual. It's not just the system, but a variety of mental and emotional manipulation which allows the system to perpetuate itself.

    I've also made a chart that goes along with the book to explain the basic premise; our society is made of a series of monopolies. I'll attach it below.

    If any of my fellow artists here on CA.org want to check the book out, I'll send you a free, printable PDF of the book. Just shoot me an email michael at endlessunlimited dotcom.

    Anyone interested in philosophy/politics/psychology?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jetpack42 View Post
    I've recently published my 2nd book, a short work of philosophy/politics/psychology. It is a general analysis of our society (The United States in particular, but I think it's applicable globally), from the point of view of the (lack of) freedom and equality of each individual. It's not just the system, but a variety of mental and emotional manipulation which allows the system to perpetuate itself.

    I've also made a chart that goes along with the book to explain the basic premise; our society is made of a series of monopolies. I'll attach it below.

    If any of my fellow artists here on CA.org want to check the book out, I'll send you a free, printable PDF of the book. Just shoot me an email michael at endlessunlimited dotcom.

    Anyone interested in philosophy/politics/psychology?
    Definitely interested. Would love to read, and see what I dis/agree with. I'll try to pick it up from Amazon regardless Still putting rather a lot of trust in some stranger online. Any one of the people who received the printable PDF could just spread it, and an exponential spread begins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maledict View Post
    Still putting rather a lot of trust in some stranger online. Any one of the people who received the printable PDF could just spread it, and an exponential spread begins.
    Although my goal is to become a financially self-sufficient author, the first part of that is to establish a readership. As a relative unknown, writing an anti-establishment book, not having spent a lifetime acquiring establishment-worthy credentials.... that's a tough hill to climb! I'm actually hoping that the people who I send it to will read it AND spread it. I'm not aiming to make a million dollars with the book, but I am attempting to make room in the marketplace for my ideas and those I agree with.

    I've always enjoyed the Socratic model of meeting people in the marketplace and attempting to add value to their lives.

    In any case, I appreciate you checking out my work!

    I welcome any thoughts, even if any of you peeps passing through have thoughts on the chart or whatnot; like Courage Wolf, I keep the door open for any challengers.
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    I am something of an anarchist. I have given up on politics. :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by blogmatix View Post
    I am something of an anarchist. I have given up on politics. :-)
    It's been said that "war is politics by other means" and "politics is economics by other means".

    In truth, most people are anarchists most of the time. 95% of most people's lives are self-governing.

    "Giving up" on politics, and focusing on your own life, family, community, etc, is the best way to go, as far as I can tell. Resorting to using the violent arm of the state against people who disagree with you, even if they disagree non-violently, is a course existence, and I aspire, through my work, to help disillusion peeps of the fantasy notion that is the Institution. It doesn't end up benefiting anyone, and ultimately ends up manipulating everyone on the bottom into slave-on-slave violence with each other.

    But I think, through the book, I have added several key points to the discussion, and helped piece together a bigger picture view of the farce, how it works, and why.

    T'is a wretched way of living in the world, methinks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blogmatix View Post
    I am something of an anarchist. I have given up on politics. :-)
    Me too. Don't think I could keep my sanity here otherwise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blogmatix View Post
    I am something of an anarchist. I have given up on politics. :-)
    Perhaps reading stuff like this will help you understand why your an anarchist. Personally I like reading stuff like this because it gives me ideas for villains and such. Too bad heroes never come out of this kind of material.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raoul Duke View Post
    Perhaps reading stuff like this will help you understand why your an anarchist. Personally I like reading stuff like this because it gives me ideas for villains and such. Too bad heroes never come out of this kind of material.
    Alan Moore is an anarchist.

    I think the reason you don't typically see heroes to come out of this kind of material is addressed in the book...

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    History is written by the victors. The last one living gets the last word. And so the history that we revere—most of the history we read, the history that shapes our view of the world—was written, not by the most enlightened society, the greatest humanitarians, or the most advanced cultures, but by the people who perfected the use of violence in their times. From the phalanx's of Greece to the atomic bomb, history is a narrative of the nations who achieved the greatest success in obliterating other nations. Of course, those people who were destroyed were uncultured, uncivilized brutes; lives wasted in the mud anyhow, right? At least, according to historical record.
    We understand that history is written by the victors, but we haven't understood how history has tainted our understanding of victory. History portrays victory as the destruction of one's enemy. History is the triumph of good over evil (unless Nazi Germany had won WW2, in which case history would have been the triumph of....well, good over evil, because then the good guys writing history would have been Nazi's). History is (allegedly) a glorious legacy of noble warriors upholding civilization against the evil people of their day.
    History, in that respect, is nothing more than a narrative of violence. If I went to the apartment next door, shot my neighbor, and incorporated everything he owns into my own goods (let's call my “goods” my “empire”), would I be hailed as a man of my time? Civilizing my brutish neighbor who chose to live differently than me, haven't I just created a whole new era of peace and prosperity within my apartment building? We revile the man who murders his neighbors but praise the nations who murder theirs. Is it so different?
    Or what if I just knocked on every door in my apartment complex and told them that we had new rules for the complex. Everyone can do whatever they like, so long as I approve it, because it's the law (rules I wrote down on some paper). I own the building now (I bought it out, killed the owner, doesn't matter) and I am going to be enforcing the law with my gun. Even better, I'll get a friend or two with guns to patrol the complex and make sure everyone is obeying. Everyone has to do as the law says (I write the law, with the help of my friends, aka the “representatives”) or else we'll rip them out of their apartment and lock them in my empty closet (or kill them). Would you want to live in this apartment complex? Is this the paragon of civilized society? Is this the best way for people to live amongst each other?
    Then we decide that the neighboring apartment complex is brutish and uncivilized (or that they have a lot of stuff that we'd like for ourselves). I'll get my tenants fired up about how great our apartment complex is. Complex of the free. Complex of the brave. And then we'll go subjugate the other complex into our empire, or kill them. Whatever, just so long as we get some of their stuff. We're doing them a favor, really, opening up their apartment complex to trade and democracy; civilization. One building leads to another. We'll even let the tenants choose who they want to be the leader, from pre-approved choices. Who says tenants can't choose their own fate? Soon we'll bring peace, prosperity, and democracy to the whole neighborhood.
    If this really happened in your neighborhood, would you imagine these are civilized, peaceful people? How much mental and emotional manipulation has to take place for these people to be considered noble purveyors of peace and prosperity? The tenants who are subjugated at the point of a gun will know better, but their children or great grandchildren will eventually be persuaded differently.
    And somehow we all agree that this is the best way to live together in society. One group of people should be able to run everything at the point of a gun. Anyone who disagrees, regardless of whether they are peaceful and productive on their own, is jailed or killed.
    Violence is the best way to have a non-violent, peaceful, prosperous society? We're not capable of working out differences with our neighbors? We're not capable of coming together voluntarily to solve problems?
    It has been said that war is merely politics by other means and politics is merely economics by other means. Essentially, war replaces exchange. This is the fundamental misunderstanding in all of the political rhetoric about free markets. If governments understood the concepts and benefits of free markets, they would abolish themselves (and if people understood the nature of governments they would have abolished them themselves long before governments could come to this realization). There is no trading with governments; there is no peaceful exchange with violence.
    Instead we view victory as the slaughter of our enemies, instead of talking with them, reaching understanding with them, exchanging freely with them, and becoming mutually prosperous together. The goal of nations is victory, not peace and prosperity. If that weren't the case, wouldn't we have increasingly less enemies and wars? When people meet each other as equals, there can be trade and prosperity. When one is threatened with injury or death, there is only robbery, slavery, and murder.
    So life is reduced to a petty struggle to become the boss of the apartment complex; dominate or kill your neighbors, lest you be dominated and killed yourself. History, with few exceptions, is merely a record of the most successful gangsters; thugs. Civilizations that have risen to the top haven't done so because of freedom, prosperity, or whatever other concept they have been ennobled with after the fact, ours included. Civilizations that have risen to the top have done so because their bosses best succeeded at the use of violence; against other peoples, and against their own.
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    The concept is great, Jetpack. IMO you left out religious monopoly. Otherwise, or not otherwise, please dig up my email and send me the PDF. I'd take a read. If it's captivating and we all like it, or even anyone likes it, what do you plan to do with it?
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    Jetpack-
    One thing you are overlooking is that we are cooperative by nature. We actually have a progressive morality structure passed down from generation to generation. Sure violence is the universal language for "or else". But I'll say there are more positives than negatives that effect the average american life. We have free education, despite the vulnerability to brainwashing we all know our three R's. We have regulations that ensure our food is not poisonous and our drinking water is not THAT toxic. I could go on and on about the positives outweighing the negatives.

    As for the apartment analogy, I think it works for the broad stroke of the concept of an empire. But for instance the bush administration dipped it's toes in jacking apartments. The american people decided these apartments are not worth the upkeep, so we elected somebody to give them back.

    I think democracy is the most important weapon in history. I think the core problems could be handled slowly, but surely if the general public was interested. But as your graph shows, the majority of folks are too busy to give a fuck or too comfortable to give a fuck, but most of all giving a fuck is boring. As artists we have the ability to make giving a fuck fun.
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    Thanks Dr. Shoot me an email. Religion wouldn't be considered a monopoly, since people are free to abstain. Also, religion (in many places) is not enforced by violence. Now, religious people might try to use the state, but they couldn't do it if the state didn't have a monopoly on law--land and violence.

    Quote Originally Posted by Raoul Duke View Post
    Jetpack-
    One thing you are overlooking is that we are cooperative by nature. We actually have a progressive morality structure passed down from generation to generation. Sure violence is the universal language for "or else". But I'll say there are more positives than negatives that effect the average american life. We have free education, despite the vulnerability to brainwashing we all know our three R's. We have regulations that ensure our food is not poisonous and our drinking water is not THAT toxic. I could go on and on about the positives outweighing the negatives.

    As for the apartment analogy, I think it works for the broad stroke of the concept of an empire. But for instance the bush administration dipped it's toes in jacking apartments. The american people decided these apartments are not worth the upkeep, so we elected somebody to give them back.

    I think democracy is the most important weapon in history. I think the core problems could be handled slowly, but surely if the general public was interested. But as your graph shows, the majority of folks are too busy to give a fuck or too comfortable to give a fuck, but most of all giving a fuck is boring. As artists we have the ability to make giving a fuck fun.
    Raoul,
    Thanks for the thoughts. My argument has never been that certain people have not derived some benefit. Surely, that is true. Although, as you will see in my chapter on school; the concept of school itself defies logic. It's not that nobody learns anything. It's that everyone could learn way more..

    As for food, if government didn't regulate it, who would? private actors would come up who would be interested in discovering the truth about foods, and people would pay for their service because they want to eat healthy food, and they would be inspired to do good work so they maintain their customers. Regulation happens quite naturally and much more efficiently without monopolies. We understand monopolies are bad in the marketplace.. they're just as bad, if not worse, when applied to important everyday issues such as security and health (and not just iPods).

    Problem is, people don't often hear about many of the absolute failings of government's ability to do it's own job, http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz27ya0rUiv or we hear about it too late. The "security" provided by government is an illusion. They're as concerned for your security in as much as you can continue to be their tax-slave, and beyond that you're on your own.

    My argument is a moral one--if the initiation of force is wrong, then it continues to be wrong no matter how many papers you sign or how many badges are on your official costume. Might does't make right, and neither does the number of pieces of meat who agree with you (democratic elections). If me and the Dr can't vote for you to be our slave, why can 51% of the population vote to take goods and benefits from the 49%?

    While I completely reject democracy as a corrupt idea, I agree with your final sentiment. It can be boring, but the problem is that it affects all of our lives. Central bankers are pillaging the population on a daily basis, and people can't seem to be bothered to care. There are a lot of reasons that I think the issues have become compounded upon each other, to keep people within a cycle of slavery; you'll see in the book.

    I certainly agree that arguments for freedom and equality need to begin to resonate on an emotional level, rather than an intellectual one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jetpack42 View Post
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    While I completely reject democracy as a corrupt idea. . .
    Well. . . OK. . . what do you want to replace it with?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamber Parrk View Post
    Well. . . OK. . . what do you want to replace it with?
    You'll have to excuse the limits of the forum for presenting a nuanced view of psychology, emotions, accountability, and hierarchy in society. That's why I wrote a book

    Your question presupposes that democracy is like a fruit at a fruit stand and we're deciding what kind of pie to have for desert. As if it's a matter of preference and I need only to convince you of my fruit. Democracy is a system of might-making-right; mob rule. If two people can't vote to kill a third (morally), why can 51% of poor people vote to take money from 49% of the wealthiest? Why can't the wealthiest 51% just vote to take everything that the poorest 49% have? It's absurd. Voting doesn't change the principle of gravity, so does voting make murder any more or less moral?

    As far as what to replace it with, it's open to discussion. The point I attempt to espouse is that if we want the most moral, intelligent system of governance, that would express itself in living on principle. If we are born free and equal, what can Presidents do for people that they couldn't do for themselves? If we are born free and equal, can the mob force you to be a slave? A decentralized, voluntary society is going to be the most productive, prosperous, and free, and the most advanced society of people would utilize advancements in technology, polycentric law, localized communities, competing currencies.... etc. Basically, the exact opposite direction that everything is heading now. Apparently, nobody learned any of the mistakes of the last century, where government were centralizing, growing, and consolidating power for themselves. That model hasn't worked for any large countries, and it certainly didn't work out well for the 170 MILLION people who were murdered by their own governments. Yes, that's a statistic http://www.fff.org/freedom/1094f.asp

    In short, I'd replace it with principled living, self-government, decentralized communities, polycentric law based on Natural Law, and the like. Government, even democracy, is the antithesis of humanity. Just like it is not the natural state of any animal to be kept in a zoo, or for a cow to be kept on a dairy farm, it is not the natural state of a human to be a cog in the Institution. It is also worth noting that advocating a removal of corrupt law is not advocating for lawlessness, chaos, or destruction. Much to the contrary, all of the best solutions I have heard for many of societies problems are all based on non-violent solutions; they don't rely on the violence of the state to implement.
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