First, thank you all for being patient. This is the first time we have changed hosts and server setups in many years, and the site is ten times as big as it was then. It has been a bear and a beast. Thanks to Khurrum, Jacek, and Ben who have been such a tremendous help and super thanks to Arshes and BlackSpot for constantly kicking me into gear on this. We are going to be seeing some great stuff in the coming weeks. Lots of new tech is done. Getting it all installed is going to be patient, and we will open such things up when they are done. I am so glad that everyone is getting back in and sharing ideas...super appreciated and inspiring too. You all rock.
Sometimes patience wins all. Much of the crits were over issues which are being resolved as we complete the skin installation. The uber dark stickies for example were not designed that way but showing up too dark as an error as we upgraded the systems. That is better now. There are still a lot of adjustments to make. So do bear with us...we will get this place nice and spiffy, with your thanks totals, badges, smilies, and everything else in place.
I will keep you all updated. Much to do. Much appreciation too.
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I love the grey and tan color scheme. It's bold and tasteful imo, unlike every other boring looking forum out there. It really pops out color and complements good greyscale drawings. I hope you guys use a nice subtle texture in the end, like the previous design.
If you want an art analogy, it's like painting a new mural on top of an old mural, and critiquing the old mural before it's all covered up.
And yeah, maybe it would be more slick if the site didn't relaunch until it was all shiny and finished, but then we'd all go into stark raving CA withdrawal. I'm just glad it's back. And mostly functional. I've been needing my CA fix!
I was a bit doubtful before but it's looking much better now and I can't wait to see the finished version, definitely missed reading stuff here for all the time it was down.
Yeah it is much faster. So far so good.
We will keep at it. We have lots to do.
Here is an outline of what has been done so far.
a. redesign new server structure incorporating cloud servers for faster international site speed.
b. analyze old server system, determine any and all issues with code, database structure, security, and systems.
c. negotiate with various hosts to see maximum bang for the buck.
d. handle contracts and financial matters (which was EXPENSIVE...and thanks to the crew, not as expensive as it could have been).
e. move all data (which went from a 3 day to almost 3 week experience), reanalyze system, rebuild new structure based on having the best foot forward for the future. Move data again.
f. upgrade all code in the system, from the PHP and CENTOS to the vbull code.
g. Change DNS and restart site before google starts deleting the millions of back links we have taken years to get in place.
h. Fix skin, and make adjustments to the visual portions of the site.
i. analyze entire system for integration of the new technology and CA 4.0.
j. create partnership with another firm to handle item i.
k. slowly put it all back together, and start implementing the new tech in the coming weeks (where we are now). Also fix skin, add mods/upgrades to the forum (like the thank yous), and revisit site design for the new features coming up.
That is kind of an overview of whats been happening. Moving a site with this much data, and this many users is a serious undertaking. Rebuilding it from the bottom up, is an even more serious undertaking. We will get there. CA will be a gem of a website in a very short time. So happy to see everything coming together and the new forums is only the start.
Thanks to everyone for your patience and please do share your works, ideas, and help folks here in the community. You all make this effort worthwhile, even the lost nights and weekends. I am happy to help...and so are the rest of the team. Super excited for where things are headed and to see what you all do with the opportunities ahead.
Back to work!...for me at least
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Can you put the donate button up? I think some of us appreciate how much it costs.
thanks a lot guys for all your hard work!
Also, a donate button would be cool because I'd definitely use it, even though I'm skint and it wouldnt be much. This is a huge site and not just a display/critique forum for people's art, it's so much more than that and seeing how hard people behind the scenes here are working to make it the best place they can, the least I can do is offer a little bit of financial support along with my thanks.
I also completely agree with whoever said getting the place running again as soon as possible, even though there's still work going on in the background, is the best way forward. Don't think I could handle being away from this place much longer. The attitude towards learning and improving here always makes me up my game and I've really missed that.
So yeah, great stuff and thanks again!
There's a point when it gets kinda depressing...
So I'm glad to see the site back and progress being made, even if it's not at full capacity now. I enjoy the community and the people on the forum.
I mean, I've been working on a site with mostly text data, and one import of a subset of that data takes a couple of days... So moving all of CA's data twice? Yeah. Not surprised it took three weeks.
Carry on, it's looking good!
Yes a lot of progress has already been made this this thread was started.
The only reason I made the two posts that I made is simply to try to explain one side of it. The staff is (understandably) VERY attached to this upgrade.
While I agree that the "mural" comparison probably fits a little more than mine, I could very easily see staff getting upset with the userbase quickly. All I was trying to point out that any time anything changes and isn't at 100%, people *will* have comments.
The only thing you can do is A) Ask for patience or B) Shut the forum down until it's ready.
Option A is obviously more ideal, but if that is the case, patience must be shared on both sides. That is my only comment.
Again, the place is looking great!
So far I love the bulk uploader. Only thing I miss is like others have said the thumbnails on the sketchbook threads. Kind of gives you a little peak into what's in store or draws you in.
But so far seems good. Great work Jason!
If you want to see madness, register on thestudentroom- the voting system there is linked with how active/important you are. So if 30 new users upvote your post with +30 and one moderator downvotes it, you get like -800 points and red (as opposed to green) squares next to your avatar. It's insane. It has led to people becoming very popular for having like 8 red squares on their profile- it basically is recognition for trolling.
I understand that the thanks system creates a kind of favorite-system in which more thanks seem to suggest the person is popular and is in return more likely to get thanks for just about anything they say. But I'd argue that it affects only a handful of people here and it is just a small pay-off for having a system which allows recognition without effort. For example, people "thank" users in the challenge area if they like the drawing. Just no downvotes... people take it personally or feel it's unjustified (I certainly would, I have a big problem with the concept of "I downgrade you" = "I disagree with you") and it'll be a drama fest.
Well depends what you mean by bulk. Right now you can select multiple images at once. Bu you still have to fill in all the information one by one. Can't just have a preset, or apply one to all.
Also yeah I liked the thanks system. Down votes would be terrible. But hell, when I'm reading around and I see a post with a lot of thanks I stop and read for a second. Usually it's either a great joke or something fairly insightful (depending on the thread)
To help in a copyright or theft issues I suppose. Since it shows the details of your piece which you can refer to when you uploaded it to CA.org
I don't think the genre and media info is relevant to copyright though. I think the only three pieces of information that would be useful to prove ownership are date, time and the creators name. Also I'm sure in a dispute, the original multi layered PSD and maybe WIP's would be all that's needed for proof of ownership.
Thanks for all the hard work to everyone working on getting things upgraded, and I look forward to the finished CA!
I have one question, and that's: will there be a big announcement/e-mail sent out/will it be obvious when things are finished? I'd prefer to stay off the forums until everything's ready, but I'm worried that if I don't keep checking back I'll miss the official OK!
i said this in another thread but what about somehow making the Weekly Challenge badges into links to that person's winning entry.
if they have more than one win (stars) maybe make each individual star a link or make the whole badge setup a link to all that person's winning entries, oldes-newest.
just a thought. I can't imagine if it'd be easy or hard to do, or what is involved with the badge's coding.
Somethingg like this though
and yeah thanks a bunch everyone who makes this forum functioning and possible
Last edited by Shahan; September 22nd, 2012 at 03:15 PM.
Re: Like/Dislike buttons. We already had something like this with the "rate post" feature at the bottom of the posts. It was largely useless except as an identifier for harsh critiquers whom special snowflakes didn't like. Although that part *was* mildly entertaining.